Will you vaccinate with Conoravirus vaccine when one is available?

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According to reports, coronavirus vaccine is entering its final phase of testing and very soon we will have millions of coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out, hopefully from September.

By then, should a coronavirus vaccine is available, will you vaccinate it?

Personally speaking, as a 30 year old young person, I will not vaccinate myself with Coronavirus, because:

1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again.

I am not anti-vaxier, however I only think that Coronavirus vaccine is just a political ticket for politicians to explain to the public that they can now open the international borders again and ease off travel bubbles.

What do you think?
 

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At least good news Australia has secured another 10 million Pfizer (now we will have 20m Pfizer), taking us to 150 million doses of all vaccines.

All Australia vaccinated by October.

(PM press conference today)
 

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Did you notice that ScoMo admitted he will be one of the first vaccinated with Pfizer, not that he falls into high risk worker or vulnerable person category, perks of being in charge.

Not surprised we wont have a choice given demand and supply shortages for Pfizer, but hopefully in 2022 when we need a booster jab, we may get a choice or even better options may be avaialble.

The government has said they are funding jabs for all adult australians in 2021, unclear whether it will be user pays from 2022 onwards. If in future years only those with health cards (low income earners) get freebie shots (as they do with flu shots) and the rest of us have to pay hopefully that payment will afford some choice, I want to make sure whaichever I received is deemed good enough for me to travel freely when things open up.
 
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There is continuing "resistance" in Europe to vaccinating the oldies with the Oaz vaccine, Suisse has banned it altogether pending more information.
The public reasons seem a tad lightweight , perhaps there is more to the story.
To this end it is easy to link the purchase of an extra 10m of Pf vaccine to an ongoing Oaz issue.
There are a lot of factors.
Brexit plays a big part of it especially as the UK have already passed the 10 million mark of vaccinations and the whole of the EU has struggled to half a million.
France-the french pharma company Sanofi's vaccine has crashed and disappeared.

Germany -well a lot of the work on the Pfizer vaccine was done in Germany.

So mainly politics rather than science.
 

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Did you notice that ScoMo admitted he will be one of the first vaccinated with Pfizer, not that he falls into high risk worker or vulnerable person category, perks of being in charge.

Not surprised we wont have a choice given demand and supply shortages for Pfizer, but hopefully in 2022 when we need a booster jab, we may get a choice or even better options may be avaialble.

The govbt has said they are funding jabs for all adult australians in 2021, unclear whether it will be user pays form 2022 onwards. If in future years only those with health cards (low income earners) get freebie shots (as they do with flue shots) and the rest of us have to pay hopefully that payment will afford some choice,

CHO is going to get Oxford. Good for them all to get different ones, reassure people.
 

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Majority of Aussies will get Oxford one, as it will be the only one offered to anyone who isnt a worker in HQ or aged care (or a politcian who can queue jump).

Scomo alluded to new data coming out of UK that Oxford one might actually reduce spread not just lessen severity of the disease. Hoping that is peer reviewed soon, and proves true.
 
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I'm interested to know how the Govt will connect all the dots with regard to chronic health issues. It isnt like there is a central health issue register and the only connection I'm thinking is through GP's but that seems rather convoluted.
 

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I'm interested to know how the Govt will connect all the dots with regard to chronic health issues. It isnt like there is a central health issue register and the only connection I'm thinking is through GP's but that seems rather convoluted.

I suspect once frontline workers and aged care facilities are done, if there are spare Pfizer jabs, it will probably required a GP referral to get one.
 

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Scomo alluded to new data coming out of UK that Oxford one might actually reduce spread not just lessen severity of the disease. Hoping that is peer reviewed soon, and proves true.

But who is going to explain that to our dear state premiers.... 😂
 

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I'll get vaccinated as soon as I can as I don't expect the government will let me do the international travel I need to do without one.

Once I'm vaccinated I'll probably lodge another request for a travel exemption to travel overseas attaching proof of vaccination.
 

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The US is on pace to vaccinate 75 per cent of its population against COVID-19 this year, while Canada would need almost a decade to reach that coverage level, according to Bloomberg data.

The starkly different trajectories show how unevenly countries around the world have kicked off the largest mass vaccination drive in history.

The Britain and Israel are also on a path to administer a two-dose vaccine regimen to three-quarters of people this year -- reaching a rough estimate for when herd immunity might kick in -- while much of Europe would need a few years for that.

Though overall the US is faring relatively well compared with other countries, the picture varies by individual states. Hawaii is headed for the key coverage level this year, with New York currently looking at summer 2022.

These projections are the latest feature on Bloomberg’s COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker, and are based on the average daily vaccination rates in different countries and US states.

Herd immunity occurs when enough people have resistance to a virus, either through vaccination or antibodies from previous infection, that the pathogen can no longer make inroads.

It’s a complicated concept, and experts disagree on how fast it will be achieved on a regional, national or global scale, especially in the face of mutating virus strains and questions about the longevity of protection from COVID shots.

The pace of vaccinations is also expected to accelerate considerably around the world as more COVID shots get approved and production scales up.
 

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ABC News Covid Blog reports:

Brendan Murphy says it's unlikely we'll achieve herd immunity without vaccinating children

The final phase of the Government's vaccine strategy includes children under the age of 16 "if recommended," with health authorities saying regulatory approval for that age group will require more data.

Uncertainty remains over whether herd immunity against the virus is possible, as officials don't yet know how effective vaccines are in preventing transmission.

The Health Department boss has told a parliamentary committee there are still many unknowns.

"It's quite possible to get the proper definition of herd immunity we may need to vaccinate children, and children we know don't get the disease very often but some of them do get it, particularly teenagers," Professor Murphy said.
 

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Once I'm vaccinated I'll probably lodge another request for a travel exemption to travel overseas attaching proof of vaccination.
I'm overseas now with a FIFO worker exemption, and gunna write to my MP asking this small category be included in the high risk group. Risk is not just to me but to Australia. cheers skip
 

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ABC News Covid Blog reports:

Brendan Murphy says it's unlikely we'll achieve herd immunity without vaccinating children

The final phase of the Government's vaccine strategy includes children under the age of 16 "if recommended," with health authorities saying regulatory approval for that age group will require more data.

Uncertainty remains over whether herd immunity against the virus is possible, as officials don't yet know how effective vaccines are in preventing transmission.

The Health Department boss has told a parliamentary committee there are still many unknowns.

"It's quite possible to get the proper definition of herd immunity we may need to vaccinate children, and children we know don't get the disease very often but some of them do get it, particularly teenagers," Professor Murphy said.

But officials do know - maybe not the ones in Oz, but the preliminary data seems to be in that the Oxford vaccine stops transmission in 67% of cases, or close to that as reported in this thread earlier.

I wish the government would muzzle Murphy with his constant bad news :(
 

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But officials do know - maybe not the ones in Oz, but the preliminary data seems to be in that the Oxford vaccine stops transmission in 67% of cases, or close to that as reported in this thread earlier.

I wish the government would muzzle Murphy with his constant bad news :(
Perhaps Professor Murphy, Secretary of the Department of Health, is the voice of circumspection.
 

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But officials do know - maybe not the ones in Oz, but the preliminary data seems to be in that the Oxford vaccine stops transmission in 67% of cases, or close to that as reported in this thread earlier.

But the issue he was raising is that there is no intention of vaccinating under 16s this year. Just observing we need a vaccine approved for kids too, to maximise the herd immunity in the community.
 

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