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When not to use your QFF points

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DoctorSimon

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Using Qantas FF points to buy an economy return flight (20-26 June) from the Gold Coast to Osaka (it is actually Jetstar) costs 60,000 QFF points and taxes of $424. But the same Jetstar flights can be purchased on the Jetstar website for $419 !!!

So what extras do I get for the $5 and 60,000 points ??
 

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Classic. I wonder just how many people get sucked onto this type of thing on a regular basis. It pays to shop around as the old saying goes. To answer your Q, nothing extra but the knowledge you have been legally scammed.
 

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This is why you have to do your research. Bear in mind that you can get a one-way MEL/SYD-HKG JASA for 60,000 points + $250 tax on an A380!
 

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Look, if your that eager to get rid of 60K points, send them my way, I'll even give you a discount down to only costing you $2... :D

On a more serious note, I personally take any QF service operated by JQ with a massive grain of salt. Usually it's LCC service at full prices, now there is a unique selling point...
 

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On a more serious note, I personally take any QF service operated by JQ with a massive grain of salt. Usually it's LCC service at full prices, now there is a unique selling point...
Low Cost Carrier does not mean Low Price Carrier :)
 

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Using Qantas FF points to buy an economy return flight (20-26 June) from the Gold Coast to Osaka (it is actually Jetstar) costs 60,000 QFF points and taxes of $424. But the same Jetstar flights can be purchased on the Jetstar website for $419 !!!

So what extras do I get for the $5 and 60,000 points ??
Don't do it.

Burn the points in F or J on a real airline.

I say this after flying over 300 flights on J*!
 

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Please don't tell me that anyone has actually booked these flights as an award?
 

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Classic. I wonder just how many people get sucked onto this type of thing on a regular basis. It pays to shop around as the old saying goes.
Please don't tell me that anyone has actually booked these flights as an award?
Maybe nobody on AFF I would hope however I'm sure there are people who would book the OOL/KIX award ticket without even bothering to check a paid airfare.

I'm sure there's an equal amount of people who don't even realise they're travelling on JQ because they made their booking via the QF website & or they assume they're travelling on QF because it's a QF flight number. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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Maybe nobody on AFF I would hope however I'm sure there are people who would book the OOL/KIX award ticket without even bothering to check a paid airfare.
Not good booking any flights without doing any research.

I'm sure there's an equal amount of people who don't even realise they're travelling on JQ because they made their booking via the QF website & or they assume they're travelling on QF because it's a QF flight number. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I really do not understand why Qantas continues this practice of using Qantas codeshares for other carriers.

It cannot possibly be to help anyone out so they are simply continuing to deceive.
 

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Don't do it.

Burn the points in F or J on a real airline.

I say this after flying over 300 flights on J*!
And where possible don't use classic. ASA. is my preferred option. In J.
Unless status is n important to you
 

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Maybe nobody on AFF I would hope however I'm sure there are people who would book the OOL/KIX award ticket without even bothering to check a paid airfare.

I'm sure there's an equal amount of people who don't even realise they're travelling on JQ because they made their booking via the QF website & or they assume they're travelling on QF because it's a QF flight number. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Have done this in J + bundle. And frankly no complaints.
Will do it again one way from HNL in may.
 

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And where possible don't use classic. ASA. is my preferred option. In J.
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Very true.

In our case (family of 4) I've found it very hard (read - impossible) to secure 4 FASA seats and almost as hard to get 4 JASA. I know JASA can be found if you like or can book 12 months out.

Over the years we have been happy to burn points on classics - only in F or J & only to destinations like SIN, BKK, HGK.

For singles or couples the F or J ASA are a great idea & offer greater flexibility.
 
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Very true.

In our case (family of 4) I've found it very hard (read - impossible) to secure 4 FASA seats and almost as hard to get 4 JASA. I know JASA can be found if you like or can book 12 months out.

Over the years we have been happy to burn points on classics - only in F or J & only to destinations like SIN, BKK, HGK.

For singles or couples the F or J ASA are a great idea & offer greater flexibility.
I would look at booking two pnrs with 1 adult & 1 child in each as you may be able to snag 2 x FASA's & 2 x JASA's. If the kids are teens then they could both go J then you & SWMBO could take the FASA.

I've seen FASA's available SIN/LHR/SIN for 126K plus cash where JASA's where 500K.

If you can only get 2 FASA's grab that & do flight alerts on E/F for F seats in the appropriate fare bucket but you obviously need a redundancy should the seats not become available.

Don't know if QF will hold F seats for a couple of days in the case where had paid for a JASA but need to refund it in order to pay for the FASA seats that have just become available.
 

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I really do not understand why Qantas continues this practice of using Qantas codeshares for other carriers.

It cannot possibly be to help anyone out so they are simply continuing to deceive.
There is one benefit that I discovered recently John.

I assumed that Qantas and Jetstar ASAs could only be used for flights on Qantas or Jetstar metal. However, I was doing some research last week for a flight from UK to Adelaide and found that I could get a GLA-LHR-ADL ASA for the same points and cash as just LHR-ADL. The GLA-LHR leg is of course a code share flight (BA though, so not as bad as Jet*).

So, if there were no code shares, I would have to make my own way from GLA-LHR, which is actually what I was expecting I would have to do. I assume this works for all code shares.
 

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So, if there were no code shares, I would have to make my own way from GLA-LHR, which is actually what I was expecting I would have to do. I assume this works for all code shares.
OK that would appear to be one of the better benefits with QF codeshares on other carriers.

Where one might run into trouble is with seat selection, baggage allowances, OLCI etc with QF codeshares.
 

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I would look at booking two pnrs with 1 adult & 1 child in each as you may be able to snag 2 x FASA's & 2 x JASA's. If the kids are teens then they could both go J then you & SWMBO could take the FASA.

I've seen FASA's available SIN/LHR/SIN for 126K plus cash where JASA's where 500K.

If you can only get 2 FASA's grab that & do flight alerts on E/F for F seats in the appropriate fare bucket but you obviously need a redundancy should the seats not become available.

Don't know if QF will hold F seats for a couple of days in the case where had paid for a JASA but need to refund it in order to pay for the FASA seats that have just become available.
We're going to have to get more adventurous now that BA have dropped SYD-BKK-SYD & QF have dropped kicked 744 from the route:mad: Our kids would probably like to travel away from us but, at 11 & 9 we're not ready to punt them just yet.

I agree, have noticed many options for F from SIN....either to SYD, MEL or LHR - alas, only for two. Can't complained as there are only limited seats in F however, on three occasions I've been successful in securing 5 F seats (when the MIL tags along) SYD-BKK/SIN-SYD as classic award on BA metal.

For us & no doubt very many the carrot for classic is that options in F & J exists for last minute bookings....you can just about get 4-5 J seats on CX any day you want:D

if you are overflowing with points & have no issue retaining the status level - classic award is a good option.
 

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I always check the price verse the amount of points.

I remember once when going to NAN it was nearly dearer to use points that to use hard earned cash.
 

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I agree, have noticed many options for F from SIN....either to SYD, MEL or LHR - alas, only for two. Can't complained as there are only limited seats in F however, on three occasions I've been successful in securing 5 F seats (when the MIL tags along) SYD-BKK/SIN-SYD as classic award on BA metal.
If you could only get two seats in a premium cabin, then you & SWMBO could go in F or J then the MIL & 2 kids could go in J or PE (gasp) as on the A380 you could always meet up in the bar subject to CSM's approval & J & PE is all on the upper deck.

I suspect it may be better to 'take one for the team' put SWMBO & the MIL in the higher cabin then you fly with the kids in J or PE otherwise you'll never be allowed to forget it. :D

Best not to get the MIL offside as we don't want her feeling like she's tagging along as the hired help or a nanny. :shock:
 

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I suspect it may be better to 'take one for the team' put SWMBO & the MIL in the higher cabin then you fly with the kids in J or PE :D
OBB your posts are always very informative, knowledgeable & most of all, very sensible.....then I read the one above:shock::shock::shock: :D
 
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