Whats the best USA sim card deal at the moment?

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My first "contribution" post, so be gentle with me. :)

We recently returned from three weeks in the USA. We kitted out our family of five with the Simcorner unlimited talk/text/data sims when they were on special through Ozb: we purchased though their website. We also used our phones as mobile hot spots for laptops and iPads (no longer possible unfortunately).

I have to say I was very impressed with Simcorner's service: we had to clear up one cc issue with them on the phone and they were very helpful. In the last weeks before we departed, one of my children bought an HTC M8, another a Nexus 6 (which arrived from France just a couple of days before departure). Simcorner swapped two microsims for nanosims at no charge and a turnaround time of 48 hours.

T-mobile assign a phone number to your sim only at activation. As we were going for less than 30 days, we had Simcorner activate our sims three days before departure: they were then able to email us our US phone numbers. We were able to give friends, staff, US hotels and other travel bookings our US numbers before departure as well as program each other's phones with our US numbers (important). We swapped out our AU sims whilst in the air on QF93, landing in LAX with phones and data working perfectly. We stored our AU sims in labelled ziplock bags (and remembered to pack a pointy thing to pop open the sim drawer on the mobile phones). The use of SD card cases to store sims has also been mentioned elsewhere.

We found t-mobile to be completely satisfactory for our purposes. Here in Aus we are all on "grandfathered" Exetel $15/mth 3G mobile plans, so we didn't feel any speed differences, our data being mostly H+ with occasionally appearance of 3G and rarely E. All our phones (Motorola Razr M, HTC M8, Samsung Galaxy S5 (2x), Google Nexus 6) performed very well. In CA, we had constant H+ all over SFO and on freeways I-80, 680, 580, 280, 101 between SFO and Sacramento out to Stockton and down to Monterey. Son used his Nexus6 for Google SatNav and turn by turn navigation and it never faltered once.

Yes, there is free wifi everywhere – In And Out Burgers (apparently an AFF favourite), Bourdoins, McDonald's, Macy's, for example. Our hotel, Tuscan at Fishermans Wharf (highly recommended BTW) offered free wifi which was excellent at all times of day and night EXCEPT between 6-9pm: this follows a pattern I've found even here in AU. Wifi can be variable in speed with often page loads of a minute or more on iPad Air 2s and Nexus 6 (our two most recently released pieces of hardware).

In Florida, we spent our time in Orlando. I attended a convention and there was excellent wifi at the two conference hotels and in the convention centres. Outside the hotels, phone and data was always constantly available. My family had 10-day park hopper passes for the Disney parks; we also spent a day at Universal Studios. Apps such as My Disney Experience, WDW and Universal Studios Wait lines were invaluable for changing our plans "on the go". Both parks had wifi which often dropped out (on all phones), so reverting to 3G was often necessary. Inside rides such as Space Mountain, 7 Dwarves' Mine Train, both HPotter rides, we lost both data and wifi.

Text is generally much more useful inside parks than phone as you can't take a call whilst looping the loop on Incredible Hulk. The Parks are generally very noisy and texts replace the "What, say that again" shouting whilst bent over double to try to block out ambient noise. We were able to liaise with each other as we all had different rides we wanted to do (or not do!). At night, we all set up our various ipads and laptops to hotspot to our phones. Our convention hotel in Orlando (Caribe Royale) offered wifi only for first 2 days, then would have charged for the remainder of our stay (probably because they knew their hotel was full of convention attendees and would pay the $15 per day fee). In addition, free wifi was limited to two logons per room/apartment so the use of mobile data was always necessary for our family of five. OTOH, Contemporary Resort at Magic Kingdom had unlimited (per-room) free wifi.

We parents used net to book rental cars on-the-hop, confirming other reservations, logging into work etc. Sons used facebook and youtube and reported no difficulties, no-one appeared to run out of their 5GB hotspot limit (the Simcorner plan we had was the unlimited-all plan but with a 5GB cap on "fast" hotspot data; fast data unlimited on the phone itself). No-one reported stuttering or buffering whilst online.

We had no difficulties in activation and no time was wasted looking for AT&T or Walmart or t-mobile shops whilst in the US: I have done this in trhe past: never again. It can take half a day out of your holidays to find a store, fill out paperwork for sims, activate sims, program everyone's phones with each other numbers: it's far more efficient to have done all that before you leave AUS.

Is 4G necessary? I don't believe so for most requirements. You're not going to download Photoshop CC or Linux distros whilst away are you?

However, the loss of tethering is a major blow as it really limits the versatility and ability to use one's tablet or laptop whilst on-the-go. Whether t-mobile can enforce this is unknown. I do remember that when we were in UnZud last year Telecom NZ's data plan permitted tethering, but only two devices. We had a data sim in my iPad Air and could never log on more than two smartphones/laptops at a time. Discussion elsewhere suggests that blocking tethering is an Apple-only "enhancement".
 
Thanks for a very appreciated good and helpful first (long) post. Thanks for the input and confirmation of my approach for my next US trip re sims.

I used to travel to the ORL Convention Centre every year but never had time to get to any of the parks, except once when I drove into one by mistake and had a nightmare that I would have to buy tkts and take an hour to get out again. Fortunatly, they moved some bollards and I escaped.

My first "contribution" post, so be gentle with me. :)

We recently returned from three weeks in the USA. We kitted out our family of five with the Simcorner unlimited talk/text/data sims when they were on special through Ozb: we purchased though their website. We also used our phones as mobile hot spots for laptops and iPads (no longer possible unfortunately).

I have to say I was very impressed with Simcorner's service: we had to clear up one cc issue with them on the phone and they were very helpful. In the last weeks before we departed, one of my children bought an HTC M8, another a Nexus 6 (which arrived from France just a couple of days before departure). Simcorner swapped two microsims for nanosims at no charge and a turnaround time of 48 hours.

T-mobile assign a phone number to your sim only at activation. As we were going for less than 30 days, we had Simcorner activate our sims three days before departure: they were then able to email us our US phone numbers. We were able to give friends, staff, US hotels and other travel bookings our US numbers before departure as well as program each other's phones with our US numbers (important). We swapped out our AU sims whilst in the air on QF93, landing in LAX with phones and data working perfectly. We stored our AU sims in labelled ziplock bags (and remembered to pack a pointy thing to pop open the sim drawer on the mobile phones). The use of SD card cases to store sims has also been mentioned elsewhere.

We found t-mobile to be completely satisfactory for our purposes. Here in Aus we are all on "grandfathered" Exetel $15/mth 3G mobile plans, so we didn't feel any speed differences, our data being mostly H+ with occasionally appearance of 3G and rarely E. All our phones (Motorola Razr M, HTC M8, Samsung Galaxy S5 (2x), Google Nexus 6) performed very well. In CA, we had constant H+ all over SFO and on freeways I-80, 680, 580, 280, 101 between SFO and Sacramento out to Stockton and down to Monterey. Son used his Nexus6 for Google SatNav and turn by turn navigation and it never faltered once.

Yes, there is free wifi everywhere – In And Out Burgers (apparently an AFF favourite), Bourdoins, McDonald's, Macy's, for example. Our hotel, Tuscan at Fishermans Wharf (highly recommended BTW) offered free wifi which was excellent at all times of day and night EXCEPT between 6-9pm: this follows a pattern I've found even here in AU. Wifi can be variable in speed with often page loads of a minute or more on iPad Air 2s and Nexus 6 (our two most recently released pieces of hardware).

In Florida, we spent our time in Orlando. I attended a convention and there was excellent wifi at the two conference hotels and in the convention centres. Outside the hotels, phone and data was always constantly available. My family had 10-day park hopper passes for the Disney parks; we also spent a day at Universal Studios. Apps such as My Disney Experience, WDW and Universal Studios Wait lines were invaluable for changing our plans "on the go". Both parks had wifi which often dropped out (on all phones), so reverting to 3G was often necessary. Inside rides such as Space Mountain, 7 Dwarves' Mine Train, both HPotter rides, we lost both data and wifi.

Text is generally much more useful inside parks than phone as you can't take a call whilst looping the loop on Incredible Hulk. The Parks are generally very noisy and texts replace the "What, say that again" shouting whilst bent over double to try to block out ambient noise. We were able to liaise with each other as we all had different rides we wanted to do (or not do!). At night, we all set up our various ipads and laptops to hotspot to our phones. Our convention hotel in Orlando (Caribe Royale) offered wifi only for first 2 days, then would have charged for the remainder of our stay (probably because they knew their hotel was full of convention attendees and would pay the $15 per day fee). In addition, free wifi was limited to two logons per room/apartment so the use of mobile data was always necessary for our family of five. OTOH, Contemporary Resort at Magic Kingdom had unlimited (per-room) free wifi.

We parents used net to book rental cars on-the-hop, confirming other reservations, logging into work etc. Sons used facebook and youtube and reported no difficulties, no-one appeared to run out of their 5GB hotspot limit (the Simcorner plan we had was the unlimited-all plan but with a 5GB cap on "fast" hotspot data; fast data unlimited on the phone itself). No-one reported stuttering or buffering whilst online.

We had no difficulties in activation and no time was wasted looking for AT&T or Walmart or t-mobile shops whilst in the US: I have done this in trhe past: never again. It can take half a day out of your holidays to find a store, fill out paperwork for sims, activate sims, program everyone's phones with each other numbers: it's far more efficient to have done all that before you leave AUS.

Is 4G necessary? I don't believe so for most requirements. You're not going to download Photoshop CC or Linux distros whilst away are you?

However, the loss of tethering is a major blow as it really limits the versatility and ability to use one's tablet or laptop whilst on-the-go. Whether t-mobile can enforce this is unknown. I do remember that when we were in UnZud last year Telecom NZ's data plan permitted tethering, but only two devices. We had a data sim in my iPad Air and could never log on more than two smartphones/laptops at a time. Discussion elsewhere suggests that blocking tethering is an Apple-only "enhancement".
 
However, the loss of tethering is a major blow as it really limits the versatility and ability to use one's tablet or laptop whilst on-the-go. Whether t-mobile can enforce this is unknown.

I remember using an AT&T SIM last year at Vegas, buying it at an AT&T operated kiosk at a mall for around $50. Like you, I was very disappointed that it blocked hotspotting on my iPhone, but given that my hotel included free wifi I was happy enough.

So I had a look at SimCorner's website just now, and see that they offer several T-Mobile SIMs, with varying levels of data, and that they all include "Mobile Hotspot/Tethering service up to xGB, (x being the amount of data you've paid for). I don't understand why you couldn't tether. Otherwise I'd rely on SimCorner's advice and get a T-Mobile SIM for my next trip to the USA.
 
I see what happens on Saturday (LA time) WRT tethering on my android.

Service providers can also block tethering by examining data packets looking for non handheld type browsers (e.g. checking the User Agent String put out by one's browser.)
 
Service providers can also block tethering by examining data packets looking for non handheld type browsers (e.g. checking the User Agent String put out by one's browser.)

Correct Serfty. Whilst AT&T block the Hot Spot function in the iPhone, others can block it by the type of browser used, I guess on the assumption that IE or Firefox aren't used on a phone.

I'm frequently in the UK and use the Three.co.uk pre-paid SIM for £15 a month for unlimited data, and they allow free data & voice roaming in many other countries. However, whilst they claim that tethering is not permitted, I've always been able to tether with them. They'd be an option to use in the USA, bought at Simcorner, on the assumption that I can activate it without being in the UK. I'll have to test that theory one day.
 
I have been in the U.S. for the past 2 weeks using my T-Mobile SIM... Originally it was unlimited, but the last renewal only 5GB/4G then watered down was available.

I have tried to tether using various hacks, none worked. It just comes up with a message on the other device to contact T-Mobile when a browser window pops up.
 
I have tried to tether using various hacks, none worked. It just comes up with a message on the other device to contact T-Mobile when a browser window pops up.

Do any other internet services on your other device work, apart from any web-browser-based services? Eg. iTunes, Outlook, BitTorrent, Kindle reader, etc.
 
Over on Whirlpool, user "Cinder" has been corresponding with Travel Sims Direct (TSD) and has posted a most comprehensive explanation of the new arrangements.

I would post the link, but "To be able to post links or images your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 6 posts."

So here is the post:
So basically this was TSD's response:
"We understand that with T-Mobile's new “Simply Prepaid” SIMs, which have replaced the now obsolete “Simple Choice Prepaid” SIMs have caused some confusion amongst many customers and retailers even.

So let me address some of these changes and clear the air (T-Mobile Plans have similar names).
*Please note I will be discussing 3 Plans. 1. Simply Prepaid Plan 2. Simple Choice Prepaid Plan (Obsolete) and 3. Simple Choice Plan (Contract) – this is the only plan with Unlimited 4G Data, soon to be phased out also.
The 2. Simple Choice Prepaid Plans are now redundant, and all T-Mobile retailers would have stopped selling and activating them. Some efforts of T-Mobile phasing out the plan include: (the plan has disappeared from their Prepaid Plans homepage – a clear and strong attempt of making this Unlimited 4G Data plan end for good).
The 1. Simply Prepaid Plans which we offer now, should not be confused with the 3. Simple Choice Plan (Contract) for "Individuals". This plan is for customers within the USA only who buy or lock in a Mobile Phone with T-Mobile directly and get monthly direct debit payments to have this service (the equivalent of a 24 month contract with Optus or Telstra in Australia). If anyone is supplying these plans they are either misleading the customers of they work with a third party service that is slow to notify and implement any changes (leaving customers in the dark in many regards). And you should be even more careful with providing IMEIs to these retailers.
We activate and work directly with T-Mobile, the advantage of this is that we have the most reliable supplier, activation system and support. We also get the news of plan changes before anyone else and have implemented them and given notice to all our customers quickly and fairly."
Michael then offered to refund the difference between the unlimited SIM and the 5G SIM (not sure of the amount, but as a previous poster suggested, probably not a whole lot)."
I then enquired as to the T-Mobile unlimited SIM offered on their website which I mentioned in an earlier post. This was after T-Mobile told me via Facebook that there was no issue with me using my existing SIM from TSD to move to that plan once I arrived in the US.
"The plan you linked is NOT a Prepaid Plan. It is the one I spoke about in the previous email, T-Mobile have different names literally for the same Simple Choice Plan (eg. individual, international and family) the features/services are all the same. And It is for local U.S residents ONLY. Each month your credit card will be debited for the Plan you purchase until you cancel it. We do not provide this or ever have. It’s the same as saying a local U.S resident who wants to travel to Australia and wants to purchase a Telstra Plan in the USA. It’s not possible. You can try to purchase this and see for yourself."
I also queried the fact that Simcorner is still offering the unlimited prepaid SIM.
"In relation to your comments on other retailers who sell the Unlimited Plan. Some retailers who use third party activation portals may still have access temporarily to the Unlimited Plans. They will be phased out shortly also, travellers which purchase from them will soon have to deal with the exact same problem. And that's for sure!
We work with T-Mobile directly, and we implement these changes as according to T-Mobile’s current product range, so we’re the first to notify our valuable customers of these changes.
The Unlimited Plan was phased out literally overnight, and the 5GB Plan has now replaced it as their Top Tier Plan. Unfortunately, as T-Mobile completes our activation requests, they will no doubt preload plans according to their updated product range. Of course we would love to still be able to provide the Unlimited Plan, it is our best seller!
We acknowledge that selling these products well in advance for customers who seek this service well in advance may expose the products to some changes (though it must be noted this risk is extremely low and we have taken measures to mitigate these risks for our customers). Our business model is derived not from wanting or seeking to sell many months in advance (we actually in many instances prefer not to), but rather that has spawned from many customers requesting this service well in advance. Like their flight bookings, hotel bookings, planning and scheduling with many aspects of their trip, they love to organize their travel SIMS well in advance as well."
So ... there you have it. I guess based on this information I am just going to leave my purchase as-is. If you would like the refund which was offered to me, best to get in touch with Michael via email, and also see if he is able to offer you a discount SIM for your 3rd party device (eg: iPad) in light of the tethering situation.
 
Well, I used one on the weekend and was able to access any data based function, app or browser on my smartphone.

I could not tether, not even with another smartphone.
 
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I'd like to be bothered reading all that, but sadly and I know it may reflect badly on me, but I can't be bothered. Thanks anyway. ;)

Over on Whirlpool, user "Cinder" has been corresponding with Travel Sims Direct (TSD) and has posted a most comprehensive explanation of the new arrangements.

I would post the link, but "To be able to post links or images your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 6 posts."

So here is the post:
So basically this was TSD's response:
"We understand that with T-Mobile's new “Simply Prepaid” SIMs, which have replaced the now obsolete “Simple Choice Prepaid” SIMs have caused some confusion amongst many customers and retailers even.

So let me address some of these changes and clear the air (T-Mobile Plans have similar names).
*Please note I will be discussing 3 Plans. 1. Simply Prepaid Plan 2. Simple Choice Prepaid Plan (Obsolete) and 3. Simple Choice Plan (Contract) – this is the only plan with Unlimited 4G Data, soon to be phased out also.
The 2. Simple Choice Prepaid Plans are now redundant, and all T-Mobile retailers would have stopped selling and activating them. Some efforts of T-Mobile phasing out the plan include: (the plan has disappeared from their Prepaid Plans homepage – a clear and strong attempt of making this Unlimited 4G Data plan end for good).
The 1. Simply Prepaid Plans which we offer now, should not be confused with the 3. Simple Choice Plan (Contract) for "Individuals". This plan is for customers within the USA only who buy or lock in a Mobile Phone with T-Mobile directly and get monthly direct debit payments to have this service (the equivalent of a 24 month contract with Optus or Telstra in Australia). If anyone is supplying these plans they are either misleading the customers of they work with a third party service that is slow to notify and implement any changes (leaving customers in the dark in many regards). And you should be even more careful with providing IMEIs to these retailers.
We activate and work directly with T-Mobile, the advantage of this is that we have the most reliable supplier, activation system and support. We also get the news of plan changes before anyone else and have implemented them and given notice to all our customers quickly and fairly."
Michael then offered to refund the difference between the unlimited SIM and the 5G SIM (not sure of the amount, but as a previous poster suggested, probably not a whole lot)."
I then enquired as to the T-Mobile unlimited SIM offered on their website which I mentioned in an earlier post. This was after T-Mobile told me via Facebook that there was no issue with me using my existing SIM from TSD to move to that plan once I arrived in the US.
"The plan you linked is NOT a Prepaid Plan. It is the one I spoke about in the previous email, T-Mobile have different names literally for the same Simple Choice Plan (eg. individual, international and family) the features/services are all the same. And It is for local U.S residents ONLY. Each month your credit card will be debited for the Plan you purchase until you cancel it. We do not provide this or ever have. It’s the same as saying a local U.S resident who wants to travel to Australia and wants to purchase a Telstra Plan in the USA. It’s not possible. You can try to purchase this and see for yourself."
I also queried the fact that Simcorner is still offering the unlimited prepaid SIM.
"In relation to your comments on other retailers who sell the Unlimited Plan. Some retailers who use third party activation portals may still have access temporarily to the Unlimited Plans. They will be phased out shortly also, travellers which purchase from them will soon have to deal with the exact same problem. And that's for sure!
We work with T-Mobile directly, and we implement these changes as according to T-Mobile’s current product range, so we’re the first to notify our valuable customers of these changes.
The Unlimited Plan was phased out literally overnight, and the 5GB Plan has now replaced it as their Top Tier Plan. Unfortunately, as T-Mobile completes our activation requests, they will no doubt preload plans according to their updated product range. Of course we would love to still be able to provide the Unlimited Plan, it is our best seller!
We acknowledge that selling these products well in advance for customers who seek this service well in advance may expose the products to some changes (though it must be noted this risk is extremely low and we have taken measures to mitigate these risks for our customers). Our business model is derived not from wanting or seeking to sell many months in advance (we actually in many instances prefer not to), but rather that has spawned from many customers requesting this service well in advance. Like their flight bookings, hotel bookings, planning and scheduling with many aspects of their trip, they love to organize their travel SIMS well in advance as well."
So ... there you have it. I guess based on this information I am just going to leave my purchase as-is. If you would like the refund which was offered to me, best to get in touch with Michael via email, and also see if he is able to offer you a discount SIM for your 3rd party device (eg: iPad) in light of the tethering situation.
 
I've used a Red Pocket sim twice, buy on ebay for $15-20 and load up, whack it in the phone while in the customs line and away you go. Good data + phone rates.
 
Executive Summary: unlimited gone, tethering gone.

Tethering gone yes...

Unlimited has not gone, HOWEVER... once you hit 5GB you will be slowed to 3G or lower data speeds

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(they still haven't updated the T&C's on the My Account page, as Tethering is still an inclusion)

I visited a corporate T-Mobile store yesterday, and they rang head office (not call centre in Philippines)

Whilst yes, it is no more unlimited 4G/LTE speeds, you are not getting cut off, and in most areas the fall back speed is 3G so not the end of the world
 
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AT&T allowed it when I was there in Aug/Sept last year.

From talking to someone this afternoon, the plan that they are currently on with AT&T no longer allows tethering, plus it used to be an unlimited plan.

However that is just one plan, from one person, personally I have not looked at AT&T's offerings
 
Tethering gone yes...
Unlimited has not gone, HOWEVER... once you hit 5GB you will be slowed to 3G or lower data speeds

Yes, absolutely correct - sorry, I wasn't specific enough.
In 2013, I bought a 1 or 3GB plan (can't remember which) from t-mobile and last few days in the US were at "E"dge - still useful enough for email and GPS.
And at the moment unless you have an iphone 6, realistically all you'll see on your phone is H+ or 3G.

Tethering must've been too good for the customers and not so good for the suppliers, which is why it's being limited/removed (a bit like FF T&C changes, I guess).
 
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