Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[AuSammy]

Maybe if they put all ST group alliance airlines into WSI it might be good or a better idea.
Ie DL or OZ or purely freight.

Just like MEL / AVV , BNE / OOL and many others. Won’t happen.

SYD / WSI are deliberately set up for be dual entry points to the GSA

 

[Quickstatus]

HND, HKG and SIN Changi could do works into the sea,

All land restricted places.
No such issues here.

I think KIX is still sinking....

 

[HS-TQE]

Maybe if they put all ST group alliance airlines into WSI it might be good or a better idea.
Ie DL or OZ or purely freight.

Why would they move when their interline partners (which may be QF and/or VA) are maintaining their mainline operations in SYD?

WSI may be useful for the LCCs e.g Cebu, AirAsia and Scoot where their traffic is generally O&D point to point and them moving affects minimal passengers.

 

[kamchatsky]

More detailed video of WSI done by news.com.au:

Some notable learnings on the video:
- WSI designed for capacity based on ADL of 10m passengers per year;
- Travellers can check in on any kiosk and any bag drops. It is not airline dependent (both domestic and international).
- Swing zones for separation of domestic and international areas on departures, and also arrival (luggage collection areas);
- Biometric gate boarding software still in progress;


Separately, on 7 news:

- Free buses from St Marys Station to WSI before Airport Metro opens, but only one bus per 30 mins.

 

[moa999]

From the news.com.au video, airport rep wasn't even willing to commit to a Qantas Club on opening.. just that they have spaces and commercial discussions ongoing (and same with retail facilities).

Hopefully it's just a can't say yet thing, because if design and construction hasn't started it's going to be tough to get it done before opening (still stated as 2H 2026)

 

[kamchatsky]

I would be cautious with some of the estimates being pushed around, Mascot are on the record as saying they expect a further 30m pax growth in the next 15 years. Taking into account traffic has been flat for the past decade, it has taken the airport 40 years to grow the last 30 million increase, not sure where this data is coming from to say they expect such traffic in the coming years.

Australia has welcomed a lot of migrants in the last 20 years. Majority from China and India. A lot of them travel regularly (yearly) back to their home country regularly to visit family. That's why the numbers will increase so much.

 

[clifford]

Australia has welcomed a lot of migrants in the last 20 years. Majority from China and India. A lot of them travel regularly (yearly) back to their home country regularly to visit family. That's why the numbers will increase so much.

Yes indeed. One wonders why the Govt did that, but it will certainly push up the Intl traffic from/to Aust.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

One int dep gets the fed gov $70 in thr PMTax.
x 10 pax its $750.
x 100 its $7,500.
x 1,000 its $75,000.
x 10,000 its $750,000
x 10 m its millions in the coffers, mind you its only on dep.

 

[moa999]

10 minute video from Sharath who's normally a transport vlogger

 

[jase05]

We have got another tour through there in about 6 weeks time to check progress but I doubt we get terminal access

 

[AuSammy]

Saw this on insta

 

[markis10]

What’s “normal traffic” in Sydney these days?

 

[SYD]

What’s “normal traffic” in Sydney these days?

No one size fits all but if there are dedicated bus lanes (or at least clear ways during morning and arvo peak hours), it’ll probably run to schedule most of the time.

 

[Aeryn]

No one size fits all but if there are dedicated bus lanes (or at least clear ways during morning and arvo peak hours), it’ll probably run to schedule most of the time.

There are few places in Sydney with dedicated bus lanes, and even where there are like on Paramatta Rd, you frequently find cars turning left and cyclists clogging them causing delays.

The bigger challenge will be finding extra busses and drivers, with all the metro work closing train lines, government has already been struggling to provide those extra bus services due to lack of drivers.

Really no excuse for there not being a train line from day 1; other than they know usage will be very low for people outside the outer western burbs; and locals will likely drive since they are used to there not being great PT that far out.

 

[ausfox]

Does Victoria Road have a dedicated bus lane?

 

[Aeryn]

Does Victoria Road have a dedicated bus lane?

Yes for a small portion during peak times but doesn't make things much quicker than being in a car, due to the bottle neck that is the Anzac Bridge metered entry.

 

[Saab34]

From the SMH. Also noted on Senate Estimates last night, they expect to begin freighter ops in July.

I’d expect Jetstar to launch before the peak.

I’ll take a punt and say Melbourne, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Perth. The question remains will they slightly reduce frequencies at Mascot for these.

From some reports Jetstar are tight on crew in Sydney so unknown how much they can scale up.

Sydney’s new international airport will open to passenger flights at the end of October, almost four months after the first cargo aircraft takes off from the $6 billion aviation hub on the western outskirts of the city.
The exact start date for passenger flights to Western Sydney International Airport (WSI) will be revealed when its launch airlines release their inaugural ticket sales within weeks. Qantas and budget offshoot Jetstar, Singapore Airlines and Air New Zealand are confirmed partners.

 

[kamchatsky]

From the SMH. Also noted on Senate Estimates last night, they expect to begin freighter ops in July.

I’d expect Jetstar to launch before the peak.

I’ll take a punt and say Melbourne, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Perth. The question remains will they slightly reduce frequencies at Mascot for these.

From some reports Jetstar are tight on crew in Sydney so unknown how much they can scale up.

The SMH article is here:

Passenger opening for new Sydney airport revealed

Singapore Airlines and Air New Zealand will be the first international carriers, Jetstar and Qantas the first domestic.

www.smh.com.au

 

[moa999]

Footage of the relevant Senate Estimates with Simon Hickey, per 7News YT.

 

[jase05]

Also noted on Senate Estimates last night, they expect to begin freighter ops in July.

It’s been moved forward by several weeks which pleases us to no end