Wearing Thongs in Business - does it affect how you are served?

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Re: Virgin Australia Business Class Catering - Service, Meal times, Menus

Thongs, G-strings, in fact any type of underwear should not be allowed in business class.....it certainly restricts movement in the lav's with the QF mile high hosties

I would have thought that it would have provided easy access. I'm sure Ralph Fiennes is suitably qualified to advise you.
 
Do you actually have to wear any footwear on a plane? What if you showed up in bare feet? I'm sure it's happened.

At Broome airport it is mandatory to have footwear to go through security. I have seen passengers being refused access.
 
At Broome airport it is mandatory to have footwear to go through security. I have seen passengers being refused access.

It is mandatory in the US also - the barefoot walking crowd are outraged.
 
Hey thanks to the mod who split this thread off into it's own topic.

I've just read many of the posts and many are missing the thrust of what was originally said.

The OP (which was/is mine/me) was in direct respose to a member who has had a few flts in J but has made comments about each flight (please correct me if my memory errs), complaining about the level of service and blaming age discrimination for it (by and large). He posted a photo of the meal which showed thongs as his footware choice in J and then later followed up with a montage of photos where the only photo of his feet also showed thongs but he made the comment he "does not dress like a bogan". I made no such alternate claim (but possibly could do), in fact my comment was directly related to his percieved poor treatment due to his age, whereas I was offering an alternate viewpoint that his percieved poor treatment may be due to factors other than age....like choice of footware.........proudly displayed and described as "not bogan".

The plain reality is, despite whether I or others think it is/isn't bogan is not the point at all. The point is whether the choice of footware distorts the level of service offered. I maintain it will many times (not all) and also that it SHOULDN'T........and I offered adivice that he may wish to try an experiment by wearing appropriate footware and see if that makes a difference! Instead of trying that experiment, he chose to take offence to my comments and suggest that:

a) I'm jealous of him
b) I'm bored with my life
c) I should return to Y where I belong

Those comments, in response to a simple suggestion to experiment, confirms to me that the said poor service may have more to do with immaturity of the mind rather than immaturity of the body and the choice of footware does nothing to assist the situation. Once again that is not meant as a putdown. Just fact. An expectation seems to exist that service above and beyond should be given despite all else. The reality is that does not always happen (but will from time to time in all industries).

Personally, I couldn't give a rats backside who wears thongs. Personally I couldn't give a rats backside about whether anyone reads the comment for what it is or creates mental illusions of what's been said. Personally I couldn't give a rats backside whether the thong wearers continue to recieve poor service.

For the record,
a) I do NOT believe thongs are an acceptable choice of footware on an aircraft.
b) I acknowledge others disagree
c) I acknowledge others agree

In closing, I might add, thongs are not considered respectable footware in higher class clubs, casinos, restaurants, workplaces and theatres (amongst many others). Thongs are appropriate for inhibiting tinea when using communal showers (pools, caravan parks etc) and for walking across hot sands at the beach. Buying expensive thongs just proves how gullible one is but doesn't change fact they are not universally considered "upmarket footwear". Perhaps one day, people will accept thongs as acceptable footwear, but until such time, please don't continually whine when people look down their noses at you when you wear them. Do you have the right?....yes of course. Does that mean you won't suffer discrinination?.....no of course not. Do you have a choice?......yes of course, stop whining, wear them and wear the consequences of popular opinion or don't wear them and conform. Each have their merits and their pitfalls, but stop whining about whether someone else was served first. Out of interest, I recently took two J flts to CNS and I wasn't served first on either flight either! Row 2 was served first on the way north and row 1 was served first on the way south. Should I blame my age?........maybe I should blame my eye colour?......what about my sex?.....oh, I know it must be my height?........or perhaps it's as simple as the fact that not everyone can be served first!

Note: All the above is my own opinion, which I have an equal right to. No I'm not jealous, no I'm not bored, yes I will most likely return to Y where I belong where I won't be wearing thongs either!
 
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I wouldn't wear thongs (or Birkenstocks or Sandals) on a planein any class.

Mostly because my feet would freeze in the airconditioning!!
 
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Do you actually have to wear any footwear on a plane? What if you showed up in bare feet? I'm sure it's happened.

Qantas requires you to wear footwear. From their Q and As:

Wearing footware to fly



Question

Do I need to wear footwear to fly?

Answer


For your safety, footwear must be worn to board, disembark and during your flight. If you are unable to wear footwear, please notify a member of our airport staff of the reason.
 
Whilst i'm not going to get into arguments about open toed footware, i'm a firm believer in not wearing them on aircraft for one very, very simple reason. Safety. In the unlikely event of an emergency, there is no way in hell that i'm going to be caught with anything but shoes-on. Imagine having to evacuate an aircraft in the dark, searching for an over wing exit with sharp metal all around. Slicing my feet open whilst trying to save my life and quite possibly having it cause my demise, is not something I ever want to have to consider. For this very reason, I also do not remove my shoes at any stage until we have reached cruising altitude. The majority of airline accidents happen during take off and landing. I also ensure that at Top of descent, my shoes are on and i'm in my seat good to go.

So, you won't find me anywhere near an airport whilst travelling with thongs/flip-flops/jandles. The fact I don't own a pair also helps my choice there :p

I seem to recall that some airlines have a no open toed shoe policy, but for the life of me cannot recall which airline I remember seeing that for.
 
Qantas requires you to wear footwear. From their Q and As:
I always wear shoes on and off the flight but must admit especially for long haul that I take them off during the flight. Pretty hard to leave them on when changing into PJ's so by association, Qantas supports no footwear during the flight as well
 
From a safety point of view I don't find thongs acceptable, but apparently Virgin do



www.virginaustralia.com

Footwear (thongs are acceptable) – all adults and children who are capable of walking must wear suitable footwear; Shorts, or a skirt, or pants/trousers ...
www.virginaustralia.com
 
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Re: Virgin Australia Business Class Catering - Service, Meal times, Menus

You know what swanning_it I do take insult to you little post. I am not ranting for the sake of it, there is flaws that need to be fixed. How dare you insult how I act or the way I dress or even the way I should be treated. You know my name, not my story. Every time I get onboard a flight I dress classy and comfortably and I look good and so does my family. I don't know what your problem is you may be jealous of me or you may be bored with your life. But as you say you fly mostly in economy so you can take your insults where they belong. I have taken the liberty to make a collage of photos I have taken since December showing that no I don't dress like a bogan.

swanning_it I wish you happy flying

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Brad, I'm afraid you did yourself a disservice with this comment. If you re-read the OP, there was no malice, no condescension, no anger, and crucially, no insult.
You came back with all of the above when the post was a suggestion about a different idea that MAY improve your experience on board.
Which is surely what AFF is all about?
 
I will sometimes wear jeans with a shirt and thongs if it's warm. I would personally never wear tracksuit pants or a singlet top on an aircraft and would consider that more of a no-no than thongs, but each to their own. Why would I care what other people wear?
 
And notably, Virgin doesn't discriminate on the basis of age:
Two-year-old booted off jet for losing his shoes | News.com.au

Interested to read it's apparantly a CASA requirement to wear shoes. The obvious next question.....Is a thong a shoe? It's footwear and shoes are footwear, but????

OT but related, I personally thought thongs were rubbish footwear but I was amazed to read this wiki and the level of problems they can cause wearers....

While flip-flops do provide the wearer with some protection from hazards on the ground, such as hot sand at the beach, glass, thumb tacks or even fungi and wart-causing viruses in locker rooms or community pools, their simple design is responsible for a host of other injuries of the foot and lower leg.[SUP][24][/SUP] In the United Kingdom in 2002, 55,100 individuals went to hospital with flip-flop related injuries.[SUP][25][/SUP] By 2010, there were 200,000 flip-flop related injuries costing the British National Health Service £40 million.[SUP][26] [/SUP]
Walking for long periods in flip-flops can be very tough on the feet, resulting in pain in the ankles, legs, and feet. A 2009 study at Auburn University found that flip-flop wearers took shorter steps and their heels hit the ground with less vertical force than those wearing athletic shoes.[SUP][27][/SUP][SUP][28][/SUP][SUP][29][/SUP] Individuals with flat feet or other foot issues are advised to wear a shoe
 
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