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beefarmer said:
Talking about medal counts, Sunday night drank the Taylors 2014 Shiraz. You know the one,,,,advertised in bus shelters, about 15 gold emblems. I think its 2 for $30 in todays BWS shops. Sometimes you have to consider that when you make such a user friendly Clare valley shiraz like this one, you can't go wrong. Namery, no one would find it offensive. But drinking it had me asking for more. More character, more complexity, just something extra. A fruit bomb? Not exactly, but definitely a made to suit simpler palates type of red. Very similar to that red label wolf blass that sells for about eight dollars. As quaffers, absolutely no problems. But here we see again that heaps of medals don't really mean all that much.
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I couldn't agree more on the Taylor's - I keep crossing paths with this at BBQs, dinners, etc. So underwhelming IMHO
 
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georgehall said:
The 3 Oceans Explorer is back up. I've already got two cases of this so I won't Boom again, but I've convinced the old man he needs some in his cabinet. For $13 a bottle it's an exceptional wine, if you like a more restrained Shiraz that is.
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Where is it? Don't tell me it's already gone!?
 
beefarmer said:
...heaps of medals don't really mean all that much.
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Yes. There are of course exceptions, but you probably have to delve into the show result catalogues to see what the competition was in the particular show classes and it would have to be an expensive wine to warrant that.

This fact is surprising really, as the correlation of the same wine winning a similar medal across multiple wine shows is is quite low, so if a wine wins lots of gold medals it has found favour with many wine judges, by being good, being lucky in where it was in the class or just standing out in the crowd by being different (and not faulty/bad).

It always amuses me that to enter many classes the National Wine Show wines have to have won a medal at a another well-regarded show and then most of them are not considered worth a medal at the NWS, implicitly giving the middle finger to all the prior judges who thought it was.

I've seen a Penfolds Bin 389 (2005 I think) win top gold in a class at the NWS and then the next year be not deemed worthy of any medal in the same class - and hundreds, thousands of other examples of inconsistency.

Show results as a buying guide are mostly a waste of of time, it's a bit better than random, but not that much.
 
redbigot said:
Yes. There are of course exceptions, but you probably have to delve into the show result catalogues to see what the competition was in the particular show classes and it would have to be an expensive wine to warrant that.

This fact is surprising really, as the correlation of the same wine winning a similar medal across multiple wine shows is is quite low, so if a wine wins lots of gold medals it has found favour with many wine judges, by being good, being lucky in where it was in the class or just standing out in the crowd by being different (and not faulty/bad).

It always amuses me that to enter many classes the National Wine Show wines have to have won a medal at a another well-regarded show and then most of them are not considered worth a medal at the NWS, implicitly giving the middle finger to all the prior judges who thought it was.

I've seen a Penfolds Bin 389 (2005 I think) win top gold in a class at the NWS and then the next year be not deemed worthy of any medal in the same class - and hundreds, thousands of other examples of inconsistency.

Show results as a buying guide are mostly a waste of of time, it's a bit better than random, but not that much.
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It did also score 19.5 in the Great Australian Shiraz Challenge finishing with the highest score EVER. That being said, I was very underwhelmed with it, that could be because I prefer my Shiraz big and ballsy from the McLaren Vale!
 
WineNot said:
It did also score 19.5 in the Great Australian Shiraz Challenge finishing with the highest score EVER. That being said, I was very underwhelmed with it, that could be because I prefer my Shiraz big and ballsy from the McLaren Vale!
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I followed the GASC quite closely in the early years, more recent years have been somewhat surprising (to me) in their results and I've not used it as a buying guide.
I'm not sure this is the reason, but it sort of coincides with me starting to lose interest.
"Revised Judging Process[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif] The 2011 event saw the introduction of an innovative change to the judging process; wines entered were classed and tasted based on climate and regional points of difference, this ensured that all entries were judged objectively. This revised process continues in 2015." Certainly there seem to be less of the wines I mostly buy even being entered there.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]If you are buying wines to cellar for 8-10 years or more, then show results are often a bad guide, the likes of The Wine Front and even Halliday (taken with a grain of salt) are better choices for information to indicate wines to consider.[/FONT]
 
redbigot said:
Yes. There are of course exceptions, but you probably have to delve into the show result catalogues to see what the competition was in the particular show classes and it would have to be an expensive wine to warrant that.

This fact is surprising really, as the correlation of the same wine winning a similar medal across multiple wine shows is is quite low, so if a wine wins lots of gold medals it has found favour with many wine judges, by being good, being lucky in where it was in the class or just standing out in the crowd by being different (and not faulty/bad).

It always amuses me that to enter many classes the National Wine Show wines have to have won a medal at a another well-regarded show and then most of them are not considered worth a medal at the NWS, implicitly giving the middle finger to all the prior judges who thought it was.

I've seen a Penfolds Bin 389 (2005 I think) win top gold in a class at the NWS and then the next year be not deemed worthy of any medal in the same class - and hundreds, thousands of other examples of inconsistency.

Show results as a buying guide are mostly a waste of of time, it's a bit better than random, but not that much.
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Princess Fiona said:
Any WA Chardonnay fans ? Daver6 maybe ?
Thoughts on today's VIM chardy please
Evoi Margaret River Reserve 2013
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It sounds like an absolute beaut.....
 
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Princess Fiona said:
I have tried the Aldi AC Byrne Chardonnay and thought it was quite ok for a summer quaffer :)
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I get given the odd bottle of $2.49 Precious earth semi/sauuv blanc by pensioners short o fa dollar so I appreciate the sentiments. Strangely I also appreciate the wine for what it is....a two glass only quaffer I call it my quaffer's quaffer ......but still, the 38 dollar witchmount chardy I thought tasted worse.

hard to beat churchviews wild fermented chardonnay from the fo as my best chardy in the last 4 years.
 
Princess Fiona said:
Any WA Chardonnay fans ? Daver6 maybe ?
Thoughts on today's VIM chardy please
Evoi Margaret River Reserve 2013
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Not familiar with this producer. However, reading some notes from both this and the previous vintage, it does sound like the style that's would appeal to me.

Sounds like buttery, warmer climate style Chardonnay. No tasting notes talk about the acid though. Halliday describes it as balanced, but omitting the acid, I wonder if it could come across as a little flabby. This is all conjecture based on nothing but what I can find with five minutes research online. Could certainly be worth a punt though, especially with the VM option of returning if you don't like it.

Personally, my I'll pass, but that's because I really don't need more Chardonnay in my cellar at this point in time. My gut says you'll like this PF based the bit I know about what you like.
 
Daver6 said:
Not familiar with this producer. However, reading some notes from both this and the previous vintage, it does sound like the style that's would appeal to me.

Sounds like buttery, warmer climate style Chardonnay. No tasting notes talk about the acid though. Halliday describes it as balanced, but omitting the acid, I wonder if it could come across as a little flabby. This is all conjecture based on nothing but what I can find with five minutes research online. Could certainly be worth a punt though, especially with the VM option of returning if you don't like it.

Personally, my I'll pass, but that's because I really don't need more Chardonnay in my cellar at this point in time. My gut says you'll like this PF based the bit I know about what you like.
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hey daver, I thought I'd get in early before you hit the nice wines I've had forum.....what was it that you enjoyed typing this in?
 
Princess Fiona said:
Any WA Chardonnay fans ? Daver6 maybe ?
Thoughts on today's VIM chardy please
Evoi Margaret River Reserve 2013
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Ordered some last night - they say I'll receive them Mon 22, though often they come before the quoted date. (An advantage of being in Adelaide, perhaps?). I haven't deliberately bought Chardy in years, but this one somehow got my attention ... we shall see. I presume I'll crack one straight away, & post my thoughts. Just noticed they're all gone! Also chose to indulge with Oakridge PN & 1927 Marsanne. Thankfully they're meant to arrive 23rd.
 
Oops! Good pick-up. Ta WineNot

RRP of $40 was spot on with your pick. Wish I could find the Halliday rating of 95. That's the only thing nagging at me.
 

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