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The 2012 (under screwcap) was an excellent buy, I think this one would be similar (corks willing), but I won't be buying due to the cork seal.

I've just sent a shot across the bows on this one, it promises to be a cracking red and in regard to the cork-closure the romantic in me says what the hell....(there's always the 100% money back guarantee)
 
I've just sent a shot across the bows on this one, it promises to be a cracking red and in regard to the cork-closure the romantic in me says what the hell....(there's always the 100% money back guarantee)

I'm sure it (most bottles) will be fine. It's when you strike the musty or oxidised or tainted one or two a couple of years later. At this price, it's not a big issue, I just prefer not to buy cork-sealed wines.
 
I'm sure it (most bottles) will be fine. It's when you strike the musty or oxidised or tainted one or two a couple of years later. At this price, it's not a big issue, I just prefer not to buy cork-sealed wines.

My heart sank when I read it was a cork enclosure. Loved the 2012 also.
 
My heart sank when I read it was a cork enclosure. Loved the 2012 also.
Now what is this "Originally bound for a prestigious buyer in China, this gorgeous vino fell victim to a labelling technicality"?
I suppose the Chinese market much prefer cork than stelvin.
 
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My heart sank when I read it was a cork enclosure. Loved the 2012 also.

I think RB had the right approach in terms of buy-in price and cellaring longevity. I know for my part I have wines from 2001, 2002, 2003 etc under cork in my modest cellar and none to my knowledge have been affected by cork taint/spoilage. I think there has been a lot of adverse press over cork closures that has put the fear of God (probably Bacchus) into many wine consumers but on an empirical basis i.e. personal experience I have had very few wines indeed over the last 35 years or so that have been affected. Having said that, I know there have been ongoing massive s**t-storms on-line over the pros and cons of Stelvin versus cork and I would not wish to bring that plague upon this fair forum :)
 
I await the results having bought a case myself. Cheers

I'll write up the flight tomorrow, but the Legacy looks like a keeper.

All the III Associates wines took some time in the glass to show their best, but the Legacy 2013 came a fairly close second to the 2010 Giant Squid Ink and ahead of the 2014/2010 Squid Ink in mine and the group rankings. (Wines tasted single blind, identities known, but bottles numbered/masked and order unknown).
It's a fairly big, oaky, tannic wine, it had a bit of a hard edge initially, but after 30-40 minutes the fruit was singing and the hard edge gone. If you want to drink it soon, give it plenty of air.
 
I think RB had the right approach in terms of buy-in price and cellaring longevity. I know for my part I have wines from 2001, 2002, 2003 etc under cork in my modest cellar and none to my knowledge have been affected by cork taint/spoilage. I think there has been a lot of adverse press over cork closures that has put the fear of God (probably Bacchus) into many wine consumers but on an empirical basis i.e. personal experience I have had very few wines indeed over the last 35 years or so that have been affected. Having said that, I know there have been ongoing massive s**t-storms on-line over the pros and cons of Stelvin versus cork and I would not wish to bring that plague upon this fair forum :)

You are very lucky or fairly insensitive to taint.

My cork taint rate (over 40+ years) is around 5%, add to that woody/musty and oxidised wines and it comes close to 8%. Many of these I've had refunded/replaced, but it's still a hassle.

I'm currently trying to decide whether to try the "Glad Wrap" technique on a bottle of cask strength Cradle Mountain 14yo malt whisky that is slightly tainted. Most people wouldn't notice probably, but I'm quite sensitive to TCA and have never had a wine/cork returned that was tested that did not confirm my detection of TCA.
 
I think RB had the right approach in terms of buy-in price and cellaring longevity. I know for my part I have wines from 2001, 2002, 2003 etc under cork in my modest cellar and none to my knowledge have been affected by cork taint/spoilage. I think there has been a lot of adverse press over cork closures that has put the fear of God (probably Bacchus) into many wine consumers but on an empirical basis i.e. personal experience I have had very few wines indeed over the last 35 years or so that have been affected. Having said that, I know there have been ongoing massive s**t-storms on-line over the pros and cons of Stelvin versus cork and I would not wish to bring that plague upon this fair forum :)

Tasmania may be the pits for wine delivery, but for storage the mild climes are probably a lot better than other parts of Australia. My personal experience is mainly informed by a case of Ring-Bolt Cabernet from a good year that I put down for 10 years or so and then consumed all of in the space of 6 months or so. None were undrinkable but there was an unbelievable amount of bottle variation. The trouble with bottle variation is that you say, "Wow this is really good, I must save some of this for special occasions," and then you bring some out on a special occasion and find yourself saying, "Wow, this is incredibly ordinary, I can't believe I'm serving this." Of course it never happens the other way around, not only because of Murphy's Law, but because you wouldn't contemplate serving an ordinary wine on a special occasion.

ANYWAY, all that being said, I am still prepared to trust Diam a good bit more than solid natural cork, but I don't imagine VM would make the distinction; would be interested in hearing what this one is under from anyone who's gone the boom.
 
Tasmania may be the pits for wine delivery, but for storage the mild climes are probably a lot better than other parts of Australia. My personal experience is mainly informed by a case of Ring-Bolt Cabernet from a good year that I put down for 10 years or so and then consumed all of in the space of 6 months or so. None were undrinkable but there was an unbelievable amount of bottle variation. The trouble with bottle variation is that you say, "Wow this is really good, I must save some of this for special occasions," and then you bring some out on a special occasion and find yourself saying, "Wow, this is incredibly ordinary, I can't believe I'm serving this." Of course it never happens the other way around, not only because of Murphy's Law, but because you wouldn't contemplate serving an ordinary wine on a special occasion.

ANYWAY, all that being said, I am still prepared to trust Diam a good bit more than solid natural cork, but I don't imagine VM would make the distinction; would be interested in hearing what this one is under from anyone who's gone the boom.

Time will tell...I'll certainly give my honest opinion when the shipment lands.
 
ANYWAY, all that being said, I am still prepared to trust Diam a good bit more than solid natural cork, but I don't imagine VM would make the distinction; would be interested in hearing what this one is under from anyone who's gone the boom.

Can confirm that VM don't make that distinction. Have bought various wines under Diam, that are labelled by VM as being under cork.
 

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