Vaccine Rollout in Australia - personal accounts.

It’s been over a year since I had a Covid vaccine. Have had 3 total.
Had Covid once in July this year.
I’m not fussed about getting another right now to be honest.
Would do it if affected employment or travel etc.
 
For what it’s worth, did you discuss these vaccine brand decisions with your doctor?

I find it somewhat fascinating that people would rather discuss brands like we’re taking about new 4x4s on online forums rather than obtain actual medical advise.
Been to a doctor lately?
 
I have gone AZ, AZ, Pfizer, Moderna then Covid 2 weeks ago (Iceland). Do the vaccines actually work?!
 
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I was strategically waiting on the 2nd booster until the bivalent was available and also to be nearer to our cruise next month so we will be at maximum protection. Booked the bivalent at Chemist Warehouse for next week.
 
I have gone AZ, AZ, Pfizer, Moderna then Covid 2 weeks ago (Iceland). Do the vaccines actually work?!

Were you in hospital on a respirator? Or hospitalised at all? If not, the vaccines worked.

The problem with preventive measures is that you will never know what would have been the outcome had you not taken them. With the variations and reductions on viral impact with omicron strain we don't know if that impacts people the same way as the original and then delta. And the statistics on those in hospital with significant pre existing (esp it seems, obesity diabetes and hypertension etc) has never been revealed. So possibly for the vast majority of the population, with or without vaccines, with omicron, maybe hospital was never a possibility. We clearly needed vaccinations 1 and 2, possibly 3 and maybe 4. I dont agree with the vaccination of kids under 12.

We both had covid within 6 weeks, but more than 2 weeks, after the fourth vaccination. Jury is out for me.
 
I have gone AZ, AZ, Pfizer, Moderna then Covid 2 weeks ago (Iceland). Do the vaccines actually work?!
All I can go on, is seeing what vaccines have done for humanity within my lifetime. No polio, smallpox, rubella, lessened chance of whooping cough, measles and mumps - all which killed and disfigured people.

I think the current round of vaccines fall into the same category, I have no reason to think otherwise.
 
Maybe this is appropriate here rather than Humour.

Warning signs that it's time to get professional help:
1- You've had the initial two jabs, and 8 extra boosters in the past year and a half.
2- You wear a mask when driving by yourself in the car, and standing outside in the parking lot...100 yards from the store....all alone...and the wind is blowing.
3- You study the CDC announcements daily, waiting in anticipation for the next, newest booster to come out.
4- You test yourself weekly 'just in case', and are actually upset when it comes back negative so you test yourself again 'just to be sure'.
So I'm perfectly normal as none of the above apply to me.

I'm just stunned how everyone in Australia has become an expert in how to manage a pandemic. I think way too many people following telegram.

I'm waiting in anticipation where the covid vaccine is combined with the flu vaccine. I'm also hoping they don't give up on the vaccines and get better results.

By the way my GP and a number of specialists strongly recommend getting vaccinated and staying up to date with vaccinations and that's what I'll be doing.
 
I have gone AZ, AZ, Pfizer, Moderna then Covid 2 weeks ago (Iceland). Do the vaccines actually work?!
And the evidence isn't that clear as to how good the vaccines are now. remember when we got constant updates on how most people in hospital with Covid were unvaccinated? Basically don't get those figures regularly.

Some time ago I posted an article where a group of researchers followed up the people in the initial Phase 3 trials. Turned out if yoy had the mRNA vaccines that there was actually a slight increase in all cause mortality despite far less people dying of covid. But for AZ and J&J there was a 50% drop in all cause mortality. I have no idea whether that study is being followed up and repeated. It should be.

Recently I have come across an article suggesting that vaccination does reduce your chance of dying from Covid.
The Omicron period was independently associated with lower risk of inpatient mortality (OR = 0.61 (0.45–0.82), p = 0.0010). Vaccination and Omicron period admission were also independently associated with lower healthcare resource utilization (p < 0.05).


Yet when you look at their figures I am not sure how they came to that conclusion. Here are the statistics comparing the initia wave,delta and Omicron.

Of note the mortality rate has gradually dropped over time.
Also note virtually no vaccinated in the first period -1.3%, increasing to 45.5% during Delta and 60.6% with Omicron. These are American figures.
But then they compared vaccinated V unvaccinated.

Note that in the Delta phase 45.54% of those that were admitted to hospital were vaccinated. The same as the vaccination rate in the population
And in the Omicron period 60.64% of those admitted to hospital were vaccinated again the same as the population figures.

Now those figures do show that those unvaccinated had significantly worse disease and there was a trend to more ICU admissions but it didn't reach significance.
On the other hand there was a trend to increased mortality in the vaccinated but it did not reach significance. In the tables expired means died.
But it als showed that the unvaccinated were significantly more likely to be discharged home. Also significantly less likely to be discharged to a long-term care facility.

The really worrying thing to me is that they do not separate dying from covid or with Covid. Reading between the lines there may have been a reduction in Covid deaths but in the vaccinated but that is of little benefit if you are more likely to die of other diseases.
So again I sincerely hope researchers are looking at all cause mortality in vaccinated V unvaccinated populations to know exactly what the truth is.
 
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What's going on in America?

Crazy

Biden's Bivalent Booster Blunder

The Biden administration granted emergency use authorization to Pfizer and Moderna for a bivalent booster that targeted Wuhan and BA45. That vaccine received EUA based on mouse data (8-10 mice). There were no human data at the time of approval. Please don't confuse the BA4/5 with BA1 bivalent)

A recent pre-print has shown that the bivalent booster is not better at generating BA45 antibodies than getting the old booster one more time. This is the failure of not generating human trial data

Many universities are now requiring this vaccine for 20-year-old college students who have had three prior doses and Omicron. I think you have to be dropped on your head to actually believe a 20-year-old man in good health who's gotten three doses and just had Omicron will derive any benefit from this bivalent booster. I have never met even one doctor who thinks that that is true. And yet that is the position of the Biden administration.
 
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Well, here I am sitting in the JAL FCL at HND. Not feeling that I have Covid (I may or may not have though, who knows?)

The reason I mention this is that I've just spent 2 weeks in Europe, UK, France, Denmark, Finland, been on numerous buses, trams, trains, etc, with people coughing and wheezing on every one, and I don't seem to have picked up symptomatic Covid.

That might be because I've had 4 doses of vaccine and had the disease twice, but who knows. All a bit hit and miss it seems.

Oh, and my wife is recovering from viral pneumonia, which never came near me, but there again, she's never had Covid.
 
Well, here I am sitting in the JAL FCL at HND. Not feeling that I have Covid (I may or may not have though, who knows?)

The reason I mention this is that I've just spent 2 weeks in Europe, UK, France, Denmark, Finland, been on numerous buses, trams, trains, etc, with people coughing and wheezing on every one, and I don't seem to have picked up symptomatic Covid.

That might be because I've had 4 doses of vaccine and had the disease twice, but who knows. All a bit hit and miss it seems.

Oh, and my wife is recovering from viral pneumonia, which never came near me, but there again, she's never had Covid.

Good for you. But a perfect example of covid hysteria. Would you have made the same post three years ago in reference to a cold? Of course not.
 
I have personally treated young males with Myocarditis secondary to Covid-19 infection.
One ended up in ICU.

The article above doesn’t really represent the full data on Moderna and Myocarditis. Slants towards saying that the risk is higher for all the vaccines than the disease which is not true.
Heart
 
At this stage I plan to have the new bivalent booster sometime in the next month or so. Maybe early December which should mean a high level of immunity for the Christmas holidays.

Every time I have taken a COVID test it has come back negative, so I’ll have another dose of the vaccine.

At this point I’d probably like to have a booster about every 6 months but that’s probably going to be more often than permitted.
 
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I have personally treated young males with Myocarditis secondary to Covid-19 infection.
One ended up in ICU.

The article above doesn’t really represent the full data on Moderna and Myocarditis. Slants towards saying that the risk is higher for all the vaccines than the disease which is not true.
Heart
Just an observation, not an opinion as I am a vaxer. A few weeks ago Mrsprozac had to step in to the shift of one of the young teachers at work who went MIA with no explanation. The 24yo returned to work this week and it turns out he had a heart attack after his latest vaccination which he responsibly had due to his close contact job.
 
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