Using VA points on Tiger. It really doesn't make sense.

henrus

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Hi all

Someone posted on FlyerTalk about using VA points on Tiger operated services and little is documented in the way of the process but also the value. I did some digging and calculations which I've shared below so if you're not interested then stop reading now!

In short 154 Velocity points per $ can be redeemed on the Tiger Air website when booking tiger flights with a minimum of 3100 points (~$20) needed to redeem. Unlike JQ/QF there isn't any award chart and redemptions don't come with baggage unless you add it during the booking (upping the cost and number of points needed). A $69 Tiger Air flight could be had for 10626 velocity points (and the points can be used to cover taxes, baggage, seat selection, meals etc) and it's also possible to use part points for payment by only redeeming say 3100 points for $20 off the price and pay the remaining amount on card.

The main question from FlyerTalk though was is it better value then using Velocity points for Virgin Australia operated rewards. A Melbourne to Sydney redemption will set you back 11700 points (including taxes) on a Virgin Australia flight whereas the cheapest tiger flight in the next 12 months was $69 or 10626 points (only 1074 velocity points cheaper than the VA flight).

Below I've outlined all the direct Tiger Routes and compared them to direct Virgin Australia redemption flights. To make things easier I've used the number of points that VA charges with all the taxes included as the Tiger website also allows payment of taxes with points.

Column H outlines at what price the Tiger would need to be at (or lower) to be a cheaper redemption than the Virgin flight (obviously space available). The data for cheapest Tiger flights was taken from Google Flights with no preference to days of week/month so, in theory, the savings could be a lot worse but I'm using a best-case scenario.

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Finally, the far right shows the results... For the two Perth routes, you'd actually be spending more points redeeming on a Tiger flight than a Virgin one and in most cases, you'd be saving ~2500 points. The Brisbane-Darwin Route provides the biggest saving of 9000 points assuming you can get the Tiger flight for $99 but there are also a few downsides.

Unlike Jetstar awards with Qantas points, no luggage on Tiger redemptions is included (unless you add it, using more points and the price isn't fixed. For saving ~2500 points you'd lose an onboard snack, drinks, baggage allowance, entertainment, wifi (on some aircraft), a 23kg baggage allowance and in the case of Gold/Platinum cardholders - Lounge access.

If it could be booked via the Virgin website and prices were always cheaper (on a fixed award chart) then I'd consider booking Tiger myself, but for the meantime, I'll happily pay an extra 2000 points for all the extra benefits that Virgin gives.

Have you used points on Tiger? (or even considered it)
Would you redeem a flight on Tiger if it was 2000-3000 points cheaper?
and do you think Tiger should move to an award chart just like Jetstar has?
 

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My benchmark would be something like BNE-SYD on VA for 7,800 Velocity points + $35.

Awards on Tiger would need to be significantly less for me to book them as you do lose quite a few benefits.
 

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'Awards' on Tiger are really just an Any Seat type offer. You use points to buy a cash fare.
 

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If you want/need to fly and don't have or want to spend the money BUT have points, then the points can be used and is a valid option.

There will always be commentary on the best way to use points however there are other factors which weigh in.
 

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Hi,

Have used Qantas points on Jetstar many times, with only a few hassles (20% less points than Qantas).

Presumed using Virgin points on Tiger was similar but can't seem to find that anywhere.

Any suggestions ?
 
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Tiger don't offer actual Reward Flights as Jetstar does. Effectively, you are just paying for a normal revenue fare using points, similar to Points+Pay.
Result being, that it won't compare favourably to Reward Fares
 

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A shoddy, poorly run and at its worst unsafe airline to fly.

Feel awful for the staff that weren’t responsible for poor management choices of course, but Tiger itself will not be remembered long.
 

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