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I reckon Jamie Packer and his "rat pack" mates will be feeling the pinch in Macau.

The number of heli transfers out of HKG must have dropped by 90% for this time of year....
 
Did they get to vote for a governor when it was under British rule ?
 
Apparently the local news is saying that in Mong Kok, the triads have been employed by the locals to break up the protestors camps, which they are doing with force, and that the police are failing to protect the protestors. It's now getting ugly. The protestors will now not talk to the deputy exce officer after all unless the police are instructed to protect the protestors.
 
That's just a tragic thing to happen in HK. But predictable I guess once the British left. The demonstrators seem so respectful but clearly China can't allow them any air. I can't see a good outcome here.
 
In the TG F lounge at HKG airport feeling somewhat relieved that I made it threw with no hold ups. CNN says that a number of those arrested of the bully boy variety have been identified as Triad members. The protestors are saying that those bullies and violent people have been sent in by China. I'm pleased I don't have any loved ones in this protest.
I took some Michelin starred dumplings from Tim Ho Wan to the Admiralty protestors the other day. It's all very sad.
 
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Did they get to vote for a governor when it was under British rule ?

The Governor didn't attempt to meddle with the judiciary, orchestrate the stabbings of newspaper editors, or demand Western companies pull advertising from any newspaper that dare publish an article containing less than effusive praise for him.
 
More importantly, the Sino-British declaration guarantees autonomy and democratic elections for HK - China has no legal standing to be involving itself in the Chief Executive elections which is why its created a sham model through a rigged consultative process to insert itself as effectively the electoral college for the candidates that go to popular vote
 
More importantly, the Sino-British declaration guarantees autonomy and democratic elections for HK - China has no legal standing to be involving itself in the Chief Executive elections which is why its created a sham model through a rigged consultative process to insert itself as effectively the electoral college for the candidates that go to popular vote

It is always amusing to see the 50c brigade claim the communist model is the same as the US Electoral College - ignoring the fact that US Electoral College delegates are bound to vote in accordance with the majority vote of their state.
 
It is always amusing to see the 50c brigade claim the communist model is the same as the US Electoral College - ignoring the fact that US Electoral College delegates are bound to vote in accordance with the majority vote of their state.

That's a little bit harsh. I would have thought they weren't necessarily bound to vote as pledged, given the fact that faithless electors have been around for quite some time - as recently as 2004.
 
China needs to move into the 21st century along with the rest of the civilised world. Their problem though is they haven't quite embraced the 20th century yet.
I think you may find that China gets rather more of a role in determining what is civilised in the 21st century than we do and anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge would know they have been "civilised" way before those of us with European descent were.
 
I think you may find that China gets rather more of a role in determining what is civilised in the 21st century than we do and anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge would know they have been "civilised" way before those of us with European descent were.

Problem is the communist takeover and cultural revolution set them back by 50 years...
 
I think you may find that China gets rather more of a role in determining what is civilised in the 21st century than we do and anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge would know they have been "civilised" way before those of us with European descent were.
Unless you think oppression is a sign of being civilised then I am afraid they are way off the mark.

History means nothing. The present is more important to me and I can see what China is doing and how a lot of its people behave when they leave their country to visit other countries. I wouldn't describe it as civilised. Arrogant and rude is closer to the mark.

Being the most populous nation on earth doesn't put them in control of what is civilised and what is not? Does it?
 
The present is more important to me and I can see what China is doing and how a lot of its people behave when they leave their country to visit other countries. I wouldn't describe it as civilised. Arrogant and rude is closer to the mark.

And the irony is you could substitute 'Australia' for 'China' in your sentence. Look at the way Australians behave when they go to Thailand or Bali.

It is very hard to judge China unless you have lived there for an extended period of time there.
 
And the irony is you could substitute 'Australia' for 'China' in your sentence. Look at the way Australians behave when they go to Thailand or Bali.
Ah yes the good old Bogans. And people wonder why I try to avoid them when I go overseas.

It is very hard to judge China unless you have lived there for an extended period of time there.
I can only judge by what I have seen. And so far it is not good. Actually it is atrocious.
 
It is always amusing to see the 50c brigade claim the communist model is the same as the US Electoral College - ignoring the fact that US Electoral College delegates are bound to vote in accordance with the majority vote of their state.

I wasn't making any kind of comparison to the US perhaps I should have used the word committee rather than college to avoid confusing people.
 
Oh That's terrible, sad to see, I hope this youtube link goes around the world. The photographer was brave.
 
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