Travelling under another name

[Tith-Onaka]

Morning all,

First post. Did a search and couldn't get a match for this question so...

I have some colleagues of mine who are travelling interstate. Their travel has been organised for them by the interstate office.

Due to a previous booking error (made by the interstate office), they are being asked to travel on a voucher with someone else's name on it.

We have spoken to a few people and believe it to be illegal. Does anyone else know anything more specific about this? Qantas is the carrier. (The interstate office is just being lazy)

Please respond ASAP.

Cheers,
Tith

 

[milocole]

Wel, im not sure what Qf would do, i know somebody Yesterday who flew Jq and was on a different name, e.g cannot change names if somebody decides to drop out of the holiday, fake id?, and Jq are different, but im actaully not quite sure what would happen, but they might refuse travel, which is my main opinion, they probaly wont accept excuses so mabye they will, mabye they wont, sorry, im probaly not the best person to ask, my answer is quite cough

 

[simongr]

If they are caught QF will refuse to fly them.

In theory if you do OLCI no-one is going to know that the peson travelling is not the person on the ticket. It is a gamle that they may wish to take. Don't forget that they have to "survive" two flights - a one-way fare if they are caught at the other end of the first flight might prove more expensive than a return fare...

Personally (as an auditor) Iwould have grave concerns about the ethics of the people suggesting it in the other office - they are effectively advocating fraud - which in my business would be a dismissal offence.

 

[milocole]

If they are caught QF will refuse to fly them.

In theory if you do OLCI no-one is going to know that the peson travelling is not the person on the ticket. It is a gamle that they may wish to take. Don't forget that they have to "survive" two flights - a one-way fare if they are caught at the other end of the first flight might prove more expensive than a return fare...

Personally (as an auditor) Iwould have grave concerns about the ethics of the people suggesting it in the other office - they are effectively advocating fraud - which in my business would be a dismissal offence.

True, I would not like to take too many chances in this situation:shock:

 

[Tith-Onaka]

I guess I am looking for anything a bit more "official", is there any website that I can go to that would spell it out? CASA?

Please note I am thankful for the information here from you all... and additional comments will all be digested, however if you know something i don't, throw it my way..

 

[Alanslegal]

I just feel your colleagues will get caught at the security checkpoints when the BP and pax's Id may not match......

 

[oz_mark]

I just feel your colleagues will get caught at the security checkpoints when the BP and pax's Id may not match......

Been a while since I have had my ID's checked on interstate travel.

 

[oz_mark]

Wel, im not sure what Qf would do, i know somebody Yesterday who flew Jq and was on a different name, e.g can change names if somebody decides to drop out of the holiday, and Jq are different but im actaully not quite sure what would happen, but they might refuse travel, which is my main opinion, they probaly wont accept excuses so mabye they will, mabye they wont, sorry, im probaly not the best person to ask, my answer is quite cough

JQ no longer allow name changes.

 

[milocole]

JQ no longer allow name changes.

sorry, i forgot to put in the "cant" for changing names, My Fault

 

[Evan]

The airlines will say no. (And as i understand it this is a legal issue to do with there AOC and being able to identify all passangers)

You only hope would be to OLCI and chance it... but thats a risk !
And given it was a work trip they should not take the rish and fix the problem.

E

 

[Tith-Onaka]

We are looking for reasons to force the other office to change the bookings (i.e. actiually book flights under their actual names).. Office politics and all...

 

[simongr]

I assumed it would be something like that. I would play the ethics card - this is a fraud on the airline.

 

[milocole]

I assumed it would be something like that. I would play the ethics card - this is a fraud on the airline.

Well Exactly, This is a Wrong, Illegal Act that SHOULDN"T be undertaken, unless you like taking chances:-|

 

[Tith-Onaka]

Someone has asked here, whether this could be classified as a stow away style of act?

 

[serfty]

... Due to a previous booking error (made by the interstate office), they are being asked to travel on a voucher with someone else's name on it. ...

Look, I'm not even sure it's illegal, but if it was, with OCLI and Quick-Check it's hard to police for Domestic Flights and can quite easily be done.

It's certainly against Qantas' rules, both for carriage and Frequent FLyer.

(Hmmm.. on that, I wonder who's gunna get any available FF points/SC's? )

 

[oz_mark]

Look, it's basically illegal, but with OCLI and Quick-Check it's hard to police for Domestic Flights and can quite easily be done.

Hmmm.. I wonder who's gunna get any available FF points/SC's?

It all seems strange, but from a security perspective, they are more interested in what people are carrying on board an aircraft rather than who they are. Given that on a domestic flight I have never seen an identity check when boarding an aircraft, it is quite possible to get away with. However, it is still wrong(althgough I challenge anyone to point to anything that makes it illegal)

 

[simongr]

I wonder if one office will recharge the cost to the other...

 

[Tith-Onaka]

A few guys here have contacted family and friends etc... One of those friends is a criminal lawyer and is saying that it is identity fraud..


But.... they are a lawyer..... ;o)

 

[serfty]

Look here: Forms of Identification.

Forms of Identification
Domestic Flight Within Australia (QF Flights 400 and above)

If you have an e-ticket or paper ticket, and are travelling domestically within Australia (flights QF400 and above), please bring one of the following forms of identification for booking confirmation:

• Photo ID such as a driver's license or passport or social security card; or
• Your Qantas booking reference (printed on Your e-ticket itinerary receipt); or
• Your Qantas Frequent Flyer membership card, Qantas Club membership card; or
• Credit card used for this ticket purchase.

Note the use of the word "or".

 

[Maca44]

im probaly not the best person to ask, my answer is quite cough

milocole,
The majority of people that post in this forum are mature and extremely knowledgeable concerning travel, fares, status, etc etc. I have read your posts and don't know if you are simply posting for the sake of it, but it would be to your benefit if you wish to gain some credibilty with other people on this forum to only write about things you know about. I travel reguarly, but have virtually no experience compared with others here, so please listen and learn before posting. Please do not get offended, as I am only offering a suggestion.