To ticket or not to ticket...that is the question...

[Homer]

Here's the story:

I have a DONE4 commencing in 10 days. It hasn't been ticketed because I am on QF175 from SYD-LAX via BNE and, as it has a stopover that I don't need and it is a 2-class service, I have been waiting/hoping/begging for some availability in D on QF107 later the same morning. Once my DONE4 is ticketed, I cannot change the first international sector. So I will be stuck with QF175 after ticketing even if some D class opens up on QF107.

Seatcounter shows just 3 J seats left on QF107. My TA says her system shows no J seats left. However my TA also says that as ticketing is due 7 days prior to the flight, if I wait until then some people in J may not ticket and therefore their seats would be released and QF yield management may process my waitlist. But while my ticket isn't issued I cannot waitlist for upgrades on some of my other flights, eg QF30 LHR-HKG about two weeks from now.

So in anyone's experience, is there really much chance that with between 0 and 3 J seats left 10 days out on QF107 that any D will be made available? And if there is, am I losing much advantage in the upgrade queue for my later flights by holding off for another 3 days? I am SG (getting to WP at the end of this DONE4) so I understand I'll be down the list in the upgrade queue anyway...

 

[Travel Guru]

If it's 27 Oct you're talking about, I just logged into my GDS and theres no D, C or J class seats left on 107

I'd say the liklihood of D opening even if some people cancel is minimal but obviously depends on who your agent is and how much power they wield with QF.

TG

 

[simongr]

Out of interest - why the aversion to QF175? Sure it's an extra flight but it does credit more miles and SCs to your account doesnt it? Also the opportunities for upgrade to F are great BNE-LAX I think.

Personally I would ticket and be happy knowing it is all sorted for the trip.

 

[Homer]

Out of interest - why the aversion to QF175? Sure it's an extra flight but it does credit more miles and SCs to your account doesnt it? Also the opportunities for upgrade to F are great BNE-LAX I think.

The only issues I have with QF175 are that I lose a couple of hours with the BNE stopover plus as it's a 2-class service there are no opportunities for an upgrade to F (A class).

I don't think I will get more SCs because it is the same flight number through to LAX and I don't think the small diversion to BNE will add enough miles to push it into the next SC bracket. There should be a few more miles though.

 

[Travel Guru]

The only issues I have with QF175 are that I lose a couple of hours with the BNE stopover plus as it's a 2-class service there are no opportunities for an upgrade to F (A class).

I don't think I will get more SCs because it is the same flight number through to LAX and I don't think the small diversion to BNE will add enough miles to push it into the next SC bracket. There should be a few more miles though.

But given theres only 2 F seats left on QF107, your chances of an upgrade are minimal anyway.

TG

 

[Homer]

But given theres only 2 F seats left on QF107, your chances of an upgrade are minimal anyway.
TG

Yes I know. I was just answering the question literally...my aversion to QF175 is that it is 2-class, but this is largely moot as the particular QF107 that I am looking at doesn't have much availability anyway.

Given your information tallies with my TA Travel Guru, I think I will go ahead and have this ticketed. Thank you for looking it up for me.

 

[Travel Guru]

Thats okay, anytime.

You're doing exactly what I would do in your situation.

TG

 

[NM]

But given theres only 2 F seats left on QF107, your chances of an upgrade are minimal anyway.

I agree the chances are very small. The reason they are willing to still sell some J seats may be that they plan some op-ups to F is they sell as J rather than F.

But no real chance of getting D on QF107 on that day.

 

[JohnK]

I don't think I will get more SCs because it is the same flight number through to LAX and I don't think the small diversion to BNE will add enough miles to push it into the next SC bracket. There should be a few more miles though.

If it is ticketed as QF175 SYD-LAX then you will get the same FF points as QF107 SYD-LAX.

The BNE transit is irrelevant unless it was ticketed as SYD-BNE-LAX in which case you will get more SCs and FF points.

 

[serfty]

Out of interest - why the aversion to QF175? Sure it's an extra flight but it does credit more miles and SCs to your account doesnt it? Also the opportunities for upgrade to F are great BNE-LAX I think.

Personally I would ticket and be happy knowing it is all sorted for the trip.

I'm guessing it would be ticketed as QF175 SYD-LAX, so only SYD-LAX QFF points/SC's.

IIRC, There is no F on QF175 BNE-LAX.

 

[Homer]

Thank you all for your continued sound advice on this and many other topics. I have asked for the ticket to be issued so let the fun begin!

 

[NM]

Thank you all for your continued sound advice on this and many other topics. I have asked for the ticket to be issued so let the fun begin!

So what is your final routing and how much are the "taxes and charges" for the ticket?

 

[simongr]

The only issues I have with QF175 are that I lose a couple of hours with the BNE stopover plus as it's a 2-class service there are no opportunities for an upgrade to F (A class).

Sorry about that I must have been thinking about upgrade chances MEL-LAX maybe

 

[Homer]

So what is your final routing and how much are the "taxes and charges" for the ticket?

The routing is: SYD-LAX-SFO-LAX-JFK-LHR-CDG-LHR-HKG-SYD-CNS-SYD. The taxes are "approximately $1013.86".

 

[simongr]

In A$ what does that make your total fare?

My last DONE4 ticketed in the US by AA cost A$10,629.95 for the following routing:

syd-nrt-hkg-pvg-hkg-nrt-dfw-jfk-lhr-lca-lhr-hkg-syd-bne-drw-syd

Just interested to see the cost differential through being ticketed in the US...

 

[Homer]

In A$ what does that make your total fare?

AUD 11202.86.

 

[Evan]

I re-read the thread but maybe i missed something, was this ticketed in AU by QF for Homer ? Or ticketed in AU by AA ?
And AA in the USA simongr i got.
E

 

[JohnK]

I re-read the thread but maybe i missed something, was this ticketed in AU by QF for Homer ? Or ticketed in AU by AA ?

I think ticketed in AU by a travel agent as mentioned in the opening post.

 

[Homer]

I re-read the thread but maybe i missed something, was this ticketed in AU by QF for Homer ? Or ticketed in AU by AA ?
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Ticketed in AU by a travel agent.

 

[simongr]

Sorry for adding some confusion to the pot

It does make me feel a little more relaxed about BEHEMOTH and Son of BEHEMOTH as fearing whether I am actually saving money whilst taking these "liberties" with my travel.