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Tiger's off to the Gold Coast!

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Mal

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Good choice of flight for them.

Appears to be 3 return flights per day from Melbourne Tulla.
 

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At the time of Tiger’s ($49.95) announcement comparable lead in pricing MEL-OOL –>
  • JQ = $109
  • DJ = $109
  • QF = $236
 

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Once again - Tiger does not black out Christmas or School Holidays on their specials. Well done Tiger! Aussie families say thanks!

Jetstar, we dare you not to black out these times!

Thanks for the heads up, d15.in.oz

Price Check

Family of 4 (2A 2CH)
Mel - OOL - Mel
2 Jan - 09 Jan
Jetstar $2432
Tiger $840
 
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I wonder if they'll add OOL - DRW to the network to allow for connections to SIN.

Tiger would be the only carrier operating the OOL - DRW route. If it's cheap enough people will drive down from Brisbane. (It's really no further than Avalon is to Melbourne).
 

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Jetstar have responded with a $39 each way fare with the gutless blackout period of 13 Dec - 15 Jan 08.

Once again, all style - no substance.

Play your cards right and travel during that blackout with Jetstar, enforce the double the difference guarantee and travellers could have a few hundred bucks in their pocket!! ;)
 

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d15.in.oz said:
At the time of Tiger’s ($49.95) announcement comparable lead in pricing MEL-OOL –>
  • JQ = $109
  • DJ = $109
  • QF = $236

Pardon the ignorance, which airline is JQ and DJ (QF self explanetory)

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Haha, The Jetstar spin has just reached my mailbox:

Jetstar's Melbourne to God Coast Sale!

Melbourne to Gold Coast
from $39*
Travel dates: 23 Nov 07 - 13 Dec 07, 15 Jan 08 - 15 Mar 08

TERMS & CONDITIONS
On sale now until Monday 09 July 2007 (midnight 23:59 AEST) unless sold out prior. Fares are one way, web only and not available on all flights or days. For all payments by credit or charge card, an additional $2 per passenger per domestic flight sector. Airfares are non-refundable. Limited changes are permitted, charges apply. All travel is subject to the Jetstar Conditions of Carriage. See Jetstar.com for more details.

Let's panic about Tiger. Let's be Jetstar!
 

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Pardon my ignorance, which airlines are JQ and DJ?
Cheers
 

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How long can Tiger maintain these types of prices? Or will they eventually settle down to higher prices like JQ and DJ?
 
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Do DJ even know Tiger is launching LOL?

They seem to be a bit behind the 8ball on this one, which is strange, normally they are quite responsive to market conditions...
 

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BARNABY said:
Pardon my ignorance, which airlines are JQ and DJ?
Cheers

This site is fairly handy for checking airline and airport codes, along with a few other things (the two-digit codes are IATA codes).
 

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Shame Tiger only take Visa & Mastercard, and don't accept Amex or take BPay payments...
 

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JohnK said:
How long can Tiger maintain these types of prices? Or will they eventually settle down to higher prices like JQ and DJ?

yep, i reckon they can. big backers ...
 

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jakeseven7 said:
Do DJ even know Tiger is launching LOL?

They seem to be a bit behind the 8ball on this one, which is strange, normally they are quite responsive to market conditions...

I think they're not as responsive as Jetstar, because of the Jetstar price guarantee.
 

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Tiger have never made a profit;.

Interesting article in Herald-Sun today about their Chief Tony Davis: A Tiger Set To Pounce

Interesting quote from the guy:
Tony Davis said:
How much money has the Singapore Government invested in Tiger?

"Less than in some of our competitors," Mr Davis says. "Jetstar Asia only operates in Singapore because it is majority Singapore-owned through Temasek Holdings.

"Temasek owns a larger share of Jetstar Asia than it does of Tiger."


Geoff Easdown

July 07, 2007 12:00am

TIGER Airways chief Tony Davis is confident he can keep his low-cost operation aloft in the coming dogfight with Jetstar.

"We will be here to compete and we understand that Australia is a tough market and we don't underestimate our competitors," Mr Davis told BusinessDaily.

Mr Davis, like Alan Joyce, his opposite number at Jetstar, is marshalling his forces for a much awaited tickets shootout, due to begin when Tiger launches its first domestic flights from Melbourne to Darwin on December 1.

Also like Mr Joyce, Mr Davis is in his early 40s and has a 20-year background in the international aviation industry.

Mr Davis began his career with British Airways, shifting to a Middle East carrier before returning to Britain to work for British Midland.

Subsequently he worked at its low-cost offshoot, BMI Baby, launching its operations in Europe.

Three years ago he was appointed to his present post as group chief executive of Tiger Airways.

While he will not move to Melbourne, he will appoint someone to run the Australian arm of the business.

Mr Davis says that operating a low-cost airline is more like being in retail than running a transport business.

"It is very different to a normal airline operation, an entirely separate culture," he says.

His Singapore-based operation, which plans to bring five 180-seat Airbus A320s to Australia, will be outgunned by Qantas's low-cost operation Jetstar in available seat numbers.

The Qantas offshoot operates a 23-strong A320 fleet and makes no secret of its intention to swamp the high capacity Melbourne, Sydney and Gold Coast routes with extra seats.

As Mr Davis noted: "Just a few months ago our competitors were telling anyone who would listen that there was not a lot of growth left in the domestic market.

"Since then, and knowing we were coming, they have gone out and secured nine additional aircraft."

Mr Davis placed a firm order at the recent Paris Air Show for a 50-plane squadron of A320 jets. Three of those will operate in Australia.

He says Tiger will have a 70-strong fleet when the 50 new jets are delivered. He remains non-committal on how many aircraft Tiger will ultimately be bringing to Australian routes.

"We will bring as many as we need," he says, offering similar responses to questions of how many people will be employed in Melbourne and what routes Tiger will operate.

Asked why he believes Tiger will succeed when other start-ups -- such as Compass I, Compass II, Impulse and Paul Stoddart's Ozjet -- had failed, he replies: "Any company will survive and prosper if it offers the right product at the right price at the right time.

"We are in a different position to the other start-ups. We are an existing company, we fly internationally and carry people for low fares.

"We have the infrastructure to support our engineering needs, sales distribution and a website which operates today and sells tickets."

Mr Davis says the decision to operate within the Australian domestic market was sparked by the successful service Tiger operates between Darwin and Singapore.

"People were coming up to Singapore and flying on to Bangkok for just a few dollars whereas they complained that it cost them an arm and leg to fly from Melbourne to Sydney."

Mr Davis will not say if he has flown with Jetstar. But his response to the next question that "we'll be a bit more friendly and we'll have a bit more punctual product" seems to provide the answer.

Mr Davis acknowledges that Tiger has incurred losses since launching in Asia three years ago.

"Anyone with knowledge of the airline industry knows that you don't acquire brand new aircraft and establish a route network without losing money from the start," he says.

How much money has the Singapore Government invested in Tiger?

"Less than in some of our competitors," Mr Davis says. "Jetstar Asia only operates in Singapore because it is majority Singapore-owned through Temasek Holdings.

"Temasek owns a larger share of Jetstar Asia than it does of Tiger."
 

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Am i missing something here because it appears possible to make actually make money out of flying Jetstar over Christmas. :shock:

TR have flights departing 22 Dec and back 26 Dec for $319 return whilst Jetstar is $698. All flights are within one hour of the other (an thus eligible for double the difference).

The difference is $379 which doubled is $758. :confused: :confused:

What am i missing? Is the double the difference only on Jetsaver fares and hence why Jetstar have placed all OOL-MEL fares for these days as JetFlex?
 

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littl_flier said:
Is the double the difference only on Jetsaver fares and hence why Jetstar have placed all OOL-MEL fares for these days as JetFlex?

Yep. "If you find a published internet airfare on another airline that is lower than the lowest available JetSaver fare on jetstar.com - for a flight on the same domestic Australian route at a comparable time, and you purchase the JetSaver fare through our call centre on 1300 369 516, we will email you a Jetstar voucher for double the fare difference, provided we can verify the lower fare when you call to book."

So no go. Sneaky Jetstar, Sneaky.
 

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Mal said:
Yep. "If you find a published internet airfare on another airline that is lower than the lowest available JetSaver fare on jetstar.com - for a flight on the same domestic Australian route at a comparable time, and you purchase the JetSaver fare through our call centre on 1300 369 516, we will email you a Jetstar voucher for double the fare difference, provided we can verify the lower fare when you call to book."

So no go. Sneaky Jetstar, Sneaky.
Thanks Mal, that's incredible sneaky! It's not doing Jetstar any good at all when all they are selling is JetFlex's. I guess the low % of seats filled is countered by skyhigh fares though. Better to have 10 passengers at $349 than 90 at $39.
 
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