Tiger Off To A False Start

[JohnK]

Thats comparing a regular Tiger fare with a QF sale fare thats available for sale until early April. Of course QF have not offered the same level of fares for those wanting an ex PER departure as opposed to Ex SIN.

My example is an ex PER departure. Actually the QF fares ex SIN have been very steady, to any Australian capital city, for over 12 months now.

I would expect a LCC like to Tiger to be competitive from both Australia and Singapore. Clearly from my example they are not.

 

[oz_mark]

JohnK, could you give me some example dates where the QF website is quoting PER-SIN-PER at the prices you state. I can't find them!

 

[JohnK]

JohnK, could you give me some example dates where the QF website is quoting PER-SIN-PER at the prices you state. I can't find them!

oz_mark, my example was for SIN-PER return.

 

[markis10]

My example is an ex PER departure. Actually the QF fares ex SIN have been very steady, to any Australian capital city, for over 12 months now.

I would expect a LCC like to Tiger to be competitive from both Australia and Singapore. Clearly from my example they are not.

I beg to differ, you are comparing a fare that is from the qantas Singapore website that is a sale fare against normal fares from Tiger. For example if we compare one way fares its clear:

10th May SIN-Per

Tiger
[FONT=arial,Arial,Helvetica]Internet Discounted Fare[/FONT][FONT=arial,Arial,Helvetica]119.99 SGD[/FONT][FONT=arial,Arial,Helvetica]Regular Fare[/FONT][FONT=arial,Arial,Helvetica]124.99 SGD[/FONT]

QF

$259

If you look at normal return deals, $398 is the normal Qantas deal or $200 each way, again much higher than Tigers $125.

 

[JohnK]

I guess it all depends on how you choose to interpret the numbers in front of you.

I have picked another date where QF does not have a sale and Tiger has a sale fare on the outbound sector. Depart SIN 16 August and return 26 December. Return airfare SIN-PER-SIN on Tiger is S$750 and on QF S$671!

I am forever looking for cheap ways to get to my destination. But for me to travel Tiger Airways they would need to price roughly at half the standard QF price. Unfortunately my trips overseas are scheduled during holiday periods in Australia.

Good luck to the people that are able to take advantage of sale fares offered by Tiger Airways.

 

[oz_mark]

Good luck to the people that are able to take advantage of sale fares offered by Tiger Airways.

Probably those of us that have to do PER-SIN-PER

 

[wandering_fred]

For those of you QF loyalists

IF you fly PER-SINmore than every 12 months

ONE WAY on Tiger (or a QF award flight) will enable you to access the cheaper exSIN tickets.

But can I say that requires some advance planning and/or a S$75 change fee occasionally..

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

I think JohnK already does this, only on QF.

 

[JohnK]

For those of you QF loyalists

IF you fly PER-SINmore than every 12 months

ONE WAY on Tiger (or a QF award flight) will enable you to access the cheaper exSIN tickets.

I think JohnK already does this, only on QF.

Yes JohnK does this 3 times a year. Mainly at New Years', Easter and July/August. I have provided 2 examples above, these examples did not appear out of thin air they are real examples, where for my routing Tiger is more expensive than QF. How can anyone pay more to travel on a LCC over QF?

Wait for lower Tiger sale airfares? Why when you can have cheap QF airfares out of SIN all year round.

Change dates of travel? Yes, if you want to spend public holiday time in Australia and travel to Asia in personal holiday time.

QF Loyalist? I don't think so. Better service for lower price. Tiger would have to come in at around 50% of QF price to be competitive or to receive my business. I have nothing against Tiger just do not believe their regular airfares are realistic for the service they provide.

 

[futaris]

Looks like the FIRB has approved Tiger Airways...

More info here.

 

[tzzzzup]

QF has recently had some lower fares. A few weeks ago return fares for May were available for around $650.

You still have to get yourself over to Perth which is a drag if you live on the East Coast. Bring on Syd -> Sing for $100 !

 

[codash1099]

You still have to get yourself over to Perth which is a drag if you live on the East Coast. Bring on Syd -> Sing for $100 !

My heart bleeds for you . Have at look at the many many deals that are available only from the East Coast, for which we poor Sandgropers have to drag ourselves across the country. Not even possible to get subsidised fares to link in as was the case many years ago.

 

[d15.in.oz]

Have at look at the many many deals that are available only from the East Coast, for which we poor Sandgropers have to drag ourselves across the country...

Did you get the special Perth targeted QF email in your in box this morning? [Not that $209 to MEL/SYD is all that special.]

 

[codash1099]

Did you get the special Perth targeted QF email in your in box this morning? [Not that $209 to MEL/SYD is all that special.]

I did indeed. And you're right. Things only look cheap in comparison. These days, petrol looks cheap when it gets down to $1.15.

 

[moa999]

Any word on who TAA (Tiger Airways Australia's) local partner is.
Am assuming they need Oz partners to fly domestically

 

[d15.in.oz]

Am assuming they need Oz partners to fly domestically

As a wholly domestic flying operation, they don't need a partner...they can get up, up and away all on their own, with their FIRB okay!

 

[NM]

As a wholly domestic flying operation, they don't need a partner...they can get up, up and away all on their own, with their FIRB okay!

My understand is that all they need is to be a registered Australian business with an ABN. Who owns them is not relevant. Then they must apply for an Australian Air Operators Certificate (AOC) before they can fly commercially. That is basically what Sir Richard did when he started Virgin Blue in Australia.

 

[d15.in.oz]

...they must apply for an Australian Air Operators Certificate (AOC) before they can fly commercially...

Indeed, they still have hoops to jump through and regulatory hurdles to cross… but now, no more than any Australian owned business, seeking to fly commercially.

 

[oz_mark]

Tiger Airways sets up Aussie subsidiary

From The SMH:Tiger Airways sets up Aussie subsidiary - Business - Business - smh.com.au

Budget airline Tiger Airways has incorporated a wholly owned subsidiary in Australia's Northern Territory, the company said today.

The new unit, Tiger Airways Australia Pty Ltd, was incorporated on Friday, Tiger announced in a statement after it won approval for the move last week from the Australian government.

Tiger this month began flights from Singapore to Perth. Its first Australian flights flew to Darwin, Northern Territory, in 2005.

"We look forward to the further expansion of our business in the Territory," Tiger Airways chief executive Tony Davis said in the statement.

...more...