The things Qantas and Boeing talk about

[quote="oz_markNow I am aware of United, and had heard of SIngapore, but what's this about Continental?[/quote]

Biggest load of rat's bollocks since the great gun-grab of 1996.

Continental is even closer to death than United, a completely useless shell of an airline. Singapore won't be making an entry into the Australian domestic market - there likely won't be room for a second full-service airline for decades - QF and Vermin have the market stitched up quite nicely. The tiny matter of Vermin occupying all the former AN terminal space kind of buggers it for SIN as well.

Good thing too - the last thing we need in Australia is more aircraft from an airline that has such a flagrant disregard for the safety of its aircraft, crew, and passengers.

 

Pretty common knowledge, really. The whole (lack of) safety culture existing in that airline is truely astounding.

Dave

 

Rubbish, the blame lays squarely with the airline that puts schedules well ahead of safety. It has happened before, it will happen again - you just watch.

Nobody with an ounce of aviation knowledge would consider flying with those cowboys.

 

The number of people placed in boxes is the only measure that counts at the end of the day. Sorry if I've ruined your impression of Singapore Airlines as the bee's knees, but those monkeys don't give a rat's about passenger welfare or safety. They'll happilly shaft any aircrew that put safety ahead of schedules - their record on that matter is notorious.

Take your own life in your hands if you must, I'd fly Aeroflot before I'd set foot on a Singapore Airlines plane.

 

The number of people placed in boxes is the only measure that counts at the end of the day. Sorry if I've ruined your impression of Singapore Airlines as the bee's knees, but those monkeys don't give a rat's about passenger welfare or safety. They'll happilly shaft any aircrew that put safety ahead of schedules - their record on that matter is notorious.

Take your own life in your hands if you must, I'd fly Aeroflot before I'd set foot on a Singapore Airlines plane.

 

oz_mark - the thing to remember here is that when VH-OJH decided to partake of a round of golf at BKK, Qantas were operating the aircraft within manufacturers guidelines.

Boeing set various parameters for aircraft operation, and Qantas deliberately chose the settings which would cost it the least - nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, the guidelines issued to pilots were less than adequate (as far as informing pilots that they had the discretion to go outside those guidelines when circumstances permit) and that was the cause of the BKK incident.

The fact that the PIC of QF 1 on that day is still flying for Qantas is evidence that Qantas made a *mistake* as far as issuing directives to flight crew goes. I do not blame an airline for making *mistakes*.

But when airlines blatantly ignore safety directions is when I get worried. I have been at airports where the display monitor read (in order):

DELAYED
DELAYED
DELAYED
DELAYED
[insert departure time (one and only SQ flight of the night)]
DELAYED
DELAYED
DELAYED
DELAYED

And this is not an isolated occurrence.

Weather conditions have arisen which has caused each and every other PIC to delay the departure of their flights, yet SQ has persisted on.

So far, this has not resulted in a fatality, but I know that I would prefer my flight-crew to err on the side of caution, rather than be a slave to the schedule. You cannot tell me that PIC's from six or seven different airlines, all flying wide-bodies (thus having years of experience) who all decided to delay their departures until the weather was better, were ALL wrong and the SQ PIC was right on EACH occasion.

Dave

 

Don't worry OZ-Mark, The executive team of knockers have locked in on Singapore Airlines just like Bush has locked in on Iraq and in both cases there is no backing of.
One quote should make it clear to you that they know all there is to know about everything to do with aviation: "Nobody with an ounce of aviation knowledge would consider flying with those cowboys."
What us "ordinary" people are supposed to believe is that we haven't "an ounce of aviation knowledge"
Singapore are a fine airline and to compare them with Aeroflot is really sad. Why is it people get a trip out of demeaning others?
And take a tip from someone "without and ounce of ego" that SIA definately are interested in Australia.

 

And just like Iraq, Singapore Airlines deserves everything it gets.

SIA may well be interested in Australia - much like Russia is interested in Alaska. Doesn't mean either party will ever get their dirty mitts on it.

SIA is a no-hoper for a domestic operation in Australia, won't happen this side of 2020 - if ever. SIA may not even be in business then - particularly if their planes keep falling out of the sky.

 

Oz-mark, just print off the last two replies and keep them in the draw. 2020? I think I am in for a free drinky!!