The Pinot Noir & Grenache Thread

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Tolpuddle 2018 - JH97, HH96, NS95, CM(WF)94+ - $69 @ Grevillea

Hoddles Creek 1ER 2019 - GW95, JO93 - $50 @ Boccaccio (not yet online) - also in-store (possibly phone as well):
  • Hoddles Creek Sauvignon Blanc 2019 $10
  • Hoddles Creek Rose 2018 2-for-$20
  • Hoddles Creek Merlot 2018 $19.99
  • Hoddles Creek Cabernet Sauvignon 2018 $19.99
  • Wickhams Road Gippsland or Yarra Valley Chardonnay 2019 2-for-$30
  • Wickhams Road Yarra Valley Chardonnay 2015 $19.99
  • Wickhams Road Sangiovese 2018 $18.99
  • Wickhams Road Gippsland Pinot Noir 2019 $19.99
  • Parri Vermentino Toscana 2018 2-for-$20

Dr. Edge Oregon 2018 3pk $195 delivered ($65/bt) @ Different Drop or Randall's:
also delivered @ DRNKS + 10% off 6pks (+ $10 face masks)
 

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Coldstream Hills Winemaker's Red 6pk $145 ($24.17/bt) @ CellarDoor.co with $20 welcome voucher - supposedly ends Sunday
  • Coldstream Hills Yarra Valley Pinot Noir 2019
  • Coldstream Hills Yarra Valley Merlot 2018
  • Coldstream Hills Deer Farm Vineyard Pinot Noir 2018
  • Coldstream Hills Reserve Shiraz 2014
  • Coldstream Hills Reserve Pinot Noir 2018
  • Coldstream Hills Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon 2017

price-match @ My Wine Guy

Hoddles Creek 1ER 2019 - GW95, JO93 - $50 @ Boccaccio (not yet online) - also in-store (possibly phone as well):
$49.99 @ myCellars (pm for free delivery code)
 

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Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mailing List Offer

The 2019 vintage marks the first significant release from the Place of Changing Winds vineyard. This was the first time that our vines gave us a robust and balanced canopy and the kind of fruit quality we have been striving for all these years. It was also the first time that we had enough productive vines to produce a little quantity. The yield was still extremely limited, with under 250 grams of fruit per productive vine—roughly half what is permitted in Grand Cru Burgundy and a fraction of what a typical grape vine will produce in Australia. Our average bunch size was also miniscule at around 50 grams. These tiny bunches and berries have produced wines of great intensity but equally, great finesse. The wines are also quite firmly structured, which means they will benefit from aging.

Pack 1: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Dozen $750
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Bullengarook Chardonnay 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie - Late Bottling (red wax) 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019
Pack 2: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Six-pack $380
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019


bargains ≤ $15 (sorry @juddles not ≤ $10, though some past vintages were when I bought/enjoyed them last year):
YarraLoch Single Vineyard Pinot Noir 2015 - JH95, GW92 - $14.99 @ WineStar - price beat/match @ Dan's, Cloudwine
 
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given that Grenache is sometimes described as warm-climate Pinot Noir, I thought that adding it to this thread might be better than starting a new one, and so now to

The Pinot Noir & Grenache Thread

Ahead of International Grenache Day this Friday, and in light of recent deals with impressive releases from the 2018 and 2019 vintages, I thought that it might be timely to finally start a thread make this addendum since first buying and becoming interested in the grape a few years ago, after being enamoured with Lino Ramble Gomas 2015

Grenache is perhaps one of the best value and versatile varieties, with wines that can vary between the elegance of pinot noir and the power of shiraz (as a pinotphile, I of course prefer the former style), and excellent examples can be found at relatively affordable prices

In terms of value and quality, two names that spring straight to mind are Yangarra and Head - 2018 Head Old Vine Grenache is probably my current favourite

Top producers as well include Ochota Barrels, Vanguardist, S.C. Pannell - Thistledown is a specialist, yet to try Bekkers or John Duval

Amongst others, I have also enjoyed those of Bondar, Fredrick Stevenson, Tonic, Dodgy Bros

Swinney and Paralian are notable newcomers, the former from Western Australia, but as someone whose experience with Spanish wines has mainly been with sherry, I am especially looking forward to Comando G

For lower budgets, perhaps consider Purple Hands, Kay Brothers, Yalumba, Chapel Hill, Cirillo, who apparently have the oldest Grenache vineyard in the world









Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mailing List Offer

The 2019 vintage marks the first significant release from the Place of Changing Winds vineyard. This was the first time that our vines gave us a robust and balanced canopy and the kind of fruit quality we have been striving for all these years. It was also the first time that we had enough productive vines to produce a little quantity. The yield was still extremely limited, with under 250 grams of fruit per productive vine—roughly half what is permitted in Grand Cru Burgundy and a fraction of what a typical grape vine will produce in Australia. Our average bunch size was also miniscule at around 50 grams. These tiny bunches and berries have produced wines of great intensity but equally, great finesse. The wines are also quite firmly structured, which means they will benefit from aging.

Destiny of Density
 
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Qaz, great update. I have enjoyed some of the more 'pinot-esque' of the Aussie grenache (dodgy bros, Pannell and Head) and can see why it makes sense to combine the threads.
 

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Big fan of both pinots and grenaches!
Did you see today's email from MWG selling Dr Edge pinots from Oregon, USA? They're at the higher end of the price scale, but I ordered one of each just to try. Great reviews on Wine Front.
 

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according to Different Drop, it's tomorrow, and they're having 10% off a range of them with GRENACHE BASH until next Tuesday, including:

Big fan of both pinots and grenaches!
Did you see today's email from MWG selling Dr Edge pinots from Oregon, USA? They're at the higher end of the price scale, but I ordered one of each just to try. Great reviews on Wine Front.
yes, i've ordered the single-vineyards as well - for those interested who missed out, they're still available here
 

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MWWines have a decent amount of the 2018 Head Old Vine on auction, reserve $20 , 15% premium, Melbourne pick up available. (lots of 3-12 bottles available)

Auction closes 6pm tonight.

Membership required.
thanks, great - aside from my home, you've just made me bid and win in my first ever auction :(

please don't let me know about others :)
 

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MWWines have a decent amount of the 2018 Head Old Vine on auction, reserve $20 , 15% premium, Melbourne pick up available. (lots of 3-12 bottles available)

Auction closes 6pm tonight.

Membership required.
glad I could be of (dis)service.

it can be a dark hole...
 

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2017 S.C. Pannell Old McDonald Grenache - GW/RKP/JH/NS/D(SA)96, HH95, AG94, JR17 - $40.50 in 6pk @ GoodDrop

Curly Flat Pinot Noir 2018 - JH/PE96, GW/JP/SL95, AG/HH94 - $46.67 in 6pk @ AusCellardoor using SPRING for 15% off


4) To the reds: You like Burgundy, but it is a bit expensive for most of us. Try serious cru Beaujolais. I suggest the M-subregions: Moulin-à-vent or Morgon. Wines from there can be deep coloured and silky. Don’t be fooled by the Beaujolais Nouveau craze and the fact the grape is Gamay. These wines can be as good as Burgundies.

d’Or to Door have Jean-Paul Thevenet Morgon Tradition 2018 (GW94) for $45 (price-match @ Different Drop?)

Alternatively, WineStar have 24% off Dominique Piron Beaujolais Morgon Côte du Py 2018 (GW94) at $34.99 (price-match @ Different Drop)
2018 Dominique Piron Beaujolais Morgon Cote du Py - GW94 - $22 @ Different Drop :)
(thanks/credit to @travis on Winefront)

 
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I was umming and arring, but the boss signed off on me splitting a case of the Morgon - win!
 

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Bondar Rayner Vineyard Grenache 2019 - SL95, GW94, NS93 - $34 @ Prince Wine Store (Langton's were cheaper) - price match at Waters Wine or Different Drop

Bay of Fires Pinot Noir will not be appearing on Cellar One this year due to low stock. Once Halliday awarded it 99 points it was game over
fortunately not quite true:
unfortunately Cellar One have sold out of the JH99 2018, but are expecting the 2019 towards the end of November
according to Regan Drew, 2019 not as good as 2018, but slightly better than 2017

Jeremy Oliver: The shadow hanging over Australian pinot noir
 

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Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mailing List Offer

The 2019 vintage marks the first significant release from the Place of Changing Winds vineyard. This was the first time that our vines gave us a robust and balanced canopy and the kind of fruit quality we have been striving for all these years. It was also the first time that we had enough productive vines to produce a little quantity. The yield was still extremely limited, with under 250 grams of fruit per productive vine—roughly half what is permitted in Grand Cru Burgundy and a fraction of what a typical grape vine will produce in Australia. Our average bunch size was also miniscule at around 50 grams. These tiny bunches and berries have produced wines of great intensity but equally, great finesse. The wines are also quite firmly structured, which means they will benefit from aging.

Pack 1: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Dozen $750
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Bullengarook Chardonnay 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie - Late Bottling (red wax) 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019
Pack 2: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Six-pack $380
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019

2019 Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir $137 @ D.I.T.C. - 4 left

yes, i've ordered the single-vineyards as well - for those interested who missed out, they're still available here
http://instagr.am/p/CFbQZ2aDxFD/
 
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Swinney Grenache 2019 - MB96+ - $42 singles delivered direct


Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mailing List Offer

The 2019 vintage marks the first significant release from the Place of Changing Winds vineyard. This was the first time that our vines gave us a robust and balanced canopy and the kind of fruit quality we have been striving for all these years. It was also the first time that we had enough productive vines to produce a little quantity. The yield was still extremely limited, with under 250 grams of fruit per productive vine—roughly half what is permitted in Grand Cru Burgundy and a fraction of what a typical grape vine will produce in Australia. Our average bunch size was also miniscule at around 50 grams. These tiny bunches and berries have produced wines of great intensity but equally, great finesse. The wines are also quite firmly structured, which means they will benefit from aging.

Pack 1: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Dozen $750
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Bullengarook Chardonnay 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 2 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie - Late Bottling (red wax) 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019
Pack 2: Place of Changing Winds 2019 Mixed Six-pack $380
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Between Two Mountains Pinot Noir 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds Clos de la Connerie 2019
  • 1 x Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir 2019
  • 3 x Place of Changing Winds Tradition Pinot Shiraz 2019

2019 Place of Changing Winds High Density Pinot Noir $138 @ Blackhearts & Sparrows - 2 left, 1 Magnum $280 - possibly more stock in-store/phone - 10% off 6pks

Dan's clearance continues with new wines reduced, the highlight being Lethbridge 2017 for $33.20 in any 6
  • Lethbridge 2017 - MB/SC(HWC)95, CM(WF)94, NS93
In case anyone's interested, my favourite/biggest/best buys of the 2017 vintage have been Bay of Fires, Felton Road Bannockburn, Hoddles Creek, Lethbridge
now $29.13 after 5% off WISH, 8% ShopBack - today only

True, but hopefully the highest-ever rated Beaujolais on Winefront, and equal-highest gamay with Sorrenberg's 2017, might come close:
Domaine Selene Gisous 2019 - MB96+ - $50 @ France-Soir (magnum $106)
 
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