The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

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What's the point of carrying on about supply when I can go on the website of two major pharmac_ chains in Melbourne and have mRNA swimming around in my immune system before breakfast tomorrow morning?

Because you aren’t able to mix and match unfortunately (yet). So people stuck with Pfizer as their first jab now have to wait.
 
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Are Vic vac rates really flying??
I'm ok how we're going, but feel there are "many spots available with no name to them"
I really think we could be doing better, seems we're (VIC) crawling along, yes we'll get there 70% & 80% & I'm so damn happy about that.

I'd love to see a decent outbreak in QLD to align them with us eastern states, don't care about WA.
 

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Are Vic vac rates really flying??
I'm ok how we're going, but feel there are "many spots available with no name to them"
I really think we could be doing better, seems we're (VIC) crawling along, yes we'll get there 70% & 80% & I'm so damn happy about that.

I'd love to see a decent outbreak in QLD to align them with us eastern states, don't care about WA.

They are, it’s just supply has flooded in now (which is a great thing) and people are shuffling appointments around to get vaccinated earlier (good as well) - we are seeing it everywhere. We are just opening up for walk ins now. So it’s a good thing :)
 

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Something I found quite interesting.

Looking at the Our World in Data dataset, on their very specific measure of COVID vaccination, we're just about to leapfrog the United States and are sitting relatively close to Germany in terms of overall vaccination rate:


(You'll need to add Australia to the list)

Their measure is to report on the overall vaccination coverage (both Single and Double) across the entire population. This means that we're significantly lower in overall vaccination (20% delta vs 8% delta) but on the assumption most will follow through, we're starting to overtake other comparable nations in terms of coverage.

If you play around with the slider you'll get a bit of a feel of our pace - Australia, Japan and Brazil have notably come from well behind to catch up with the pack recently. You'll note we all share a significantly lower second dose than other countries around us but the momentum is notable.
 

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We’re approaching the point where supply will exceed demand. In VIC this should mean next month we’ll see a surge in second doses. In NSW they’re not far off from giving a first dose to everyone that wants one, one would suspect.

In a month or two or before Christmas we’ll probably be hearing of at least rough plans for how boosters will be rolled out.
 

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Something I found quite interesting.

Looking at the Our World in Data dataset, on their very specific measure of COVID vaccination, we're just about to leapfrog the United States and are sitting relatively close to Germany in terms of overall vaccination rate:


(You'll need to add Australia to the list)

Their measure is to report on the overall vaccination coverage (both Single and Double) across the entire population. This means that we're significantly lower in overall vaccination (20% delta vs 8% delta) but on the assumption most will follow through, we're starting to overtake other comparable nations in terms of coverage.

If you play around with the slider you'll get a bit of a feel of our pace - Australia, Japan and Brazil have notably come from well behind to catch up with the pack recently. You'll note we all share a significantly lower second dose than other countries around us but the momentum is notable.
Am I reading the right data??? I saw US at about 54% and Australia at about 41% fully vaccinated (of the population). On a manual count, I got Australia at about 85th most vaccinated country in the world, with Gibraltar leading at 117% and Pitcairn at 100% then Portugal at about 85%.

(Edit: Australia possibly moves up about 20 places if people with only one jab is added)
 

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33kft specifically said that ourworldindata is not just looking at fully vaccinated numbers but then proceeded to quote fully vaccinated numbers for the US and Australia.

Our first dose coverage would indicate that we are on track to go past the US for fully vaccinated later in the year assuming that most people that get their first dose follow through and get their second dose.
 

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Nearly 1 in 3 (33.19%) of 12-15 year-olds have had their first dose. The figure is higher at 40.13% in VIC and 47.63% in NSW.

40-44 has reached 60.4% fully vaccinated and 45-49 has reached 60.6% fully vaccinated. Every age group 40-44 and up is past 60% fully vaccinated.

20-24 has reached 60.2% first dose (over 3/4 of the way to 80%). Every age group 20-24 and up has gone past 60% first dose.

40-44 is at 79.5% first dose and should reach 80% or be just short of it when today's numbers are released tomorrow. At that point every age group 40-44 and up except 45-49 would have reached 80% first dose.

VIC at 79.43% first dose and 49.13% fully vaccinated for 16+ should go past 80% first dose when today's numbers are released tomorrow and 50% fully vaccinated the day after.

NSW has reached 75.82% fully vaccinated for 50+.

TAS at 79.55% for 70+ fully vaccinated will probably go past 80% when tomorrow's numbers are released on Friday.
 

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They are, it’s just supply has flooded in now (which is a great thing) and people are shuffling appointments around to get vaccinated earlier (good as well) - we are seeing it everywhere. We are just opening up for walk ins now. So it’s a good thing

Well as of probably tomorrow (or perhaps the vaccinations done today, that will be reported tomorrow) you will hopefully be revealed to be correct. We are all waiting to see the kick up from Moderna arriving, as well as the extra Pfizer now meant to be arriving at GP's and Pharmacists. Plus also that the numbers of GPs and Pharmacies dispensing having been now increased.

So far the reported vaccinations at GP and Pharmacists has not yet really surged with the promised doses. We know that its coming but it will be a relief to know that they are actually getting into arms.




And there is also no sign yet of an uplift in the Commonwealth Aged and Disability Care Channel in Victoria.
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With high vaccination rates there it can’t be too long before that changes as well.
The real issue surrounding AZ vs PZ hesitancy was and still is informed consent.
People are aware of the AZ TTS issue which was unfortunately overblown by many in the media.
Nevertheless the process of being "informed" means weighing up the pros and cons for the self, via discussion with their GP, friends and family, media content consumption, and of course the experiences of others.

Understandably there would be some who are hesitant about getting blood clots.
Personal risk assessment is never only based on logic, but importantly highly coloured by emotion and past experience. Its really no use saying its "1 in a million" or " rare as getting struck by lightning.

Emotion or anxiety can never be logically countered, nor should it. Consent should never discount anxiety or emotion.
Past experience may involve someone who had a bad reaction to a medicine in the past, and while this may not translate to bad experiences to all medicines, it should to be acknowledged.
Blood clots in the brain are a lot more scary for most people than a" heart reaction" to PZ to put it in lay terms
For most people the risk of "am I going to get it or not"? cognitively becomes a 50/50 proposition - either " I am going to get the reaction or I am not"

And for others the path to vaccination consent might take some time - maybe months. The recent Delta outbreak has shortened that decision time to get the jabs- again, the weighing up of risk (which started to get closer to home) and benefit

In the end, there should be no impediment for anyone to get any valid vaccine because while ATAGI says AZ is recommended for over 60, they have not said that PZ is less safe than AZ for that age group- and people have monitored the PZ reactions which are very minimal. A recommendation is not a ban. They validly ask the question during the process of informed consent: "if PZ appears to be safe, why am I not allowed to get it if I don't want AZ?". Therefore if PZ is not unsafe for over 60, then the CovidVax recommendations for over 60 is incomplete - and made complete with announcement today.

The decision was of course made easier with the impending excess of jabs - which only highlights my view that the AZ only for over 60 was a reflection of past PZ supply constraints relative to AZ.

I have a guarded view about mandatory vaccinations, financial inducements, or penalties of any sort because this corrupts the vaccine consent process.
Vaccination is really a personal choice as is all medical treatment.
The voluntary nature of vaccinations should be preserved and cherished.
 
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From October 4, in VIC state hubs there will be a 3 week gap between Pfizer jabs. Those with existing bookings will be able to bring forward their second appointment.

I guess it may not be long after that before Pfizer and Moderna are opened up to over 60s in VIC. I reckon probably within a few weeks after October 4.
 

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Lucky Victoria….. I hope QLD can do this soon…

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Victorian vaccine hubs to receive 88,000 Moderna doses this weekend​

Some 88,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine will be redistributed to Victorian state-run clinics on Sunday.

Premier Daniel Andrews said the doses would be put into arms “as fast as we possibly can” to further accelerate the vaccination program.

 

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Victorian Pfizer dose interval to be reduced to three weeks as state races past 80%​

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has just announced that the interval between Pfizer vaccine doses at state-run clinics will be reduced from six weeks to three weeks from October 4.

The state has officially passed the milestone of 80 per cent of its population vaccinated with at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, as vaccination rates soar faster than experts predicted.

 

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Lucky Victoria….. I hope QLD can do this soon…

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Victorian vaccine hubs to receive 88,000 Moderna doses this weekend​

Some 88,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine will be redistributed to Victorian state-run clinics on Sunday.

Premier Daniel Andrews said the doses would be put into arms “as fast as we possibly can” to further accelerate the vaccination program.

Interesting. I think Moderna is only available through pharmacies in SA and has been for a few weeks now to any who want them.
 

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Lucky Victoria….. I hope QLD can do this soon…

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Victorian vaccine hubs to receive 88,000 Moderna doses this weekend​

Some 88,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine will be redistributed to Victorian state-run clinics on Sunday.

Premier Daniel Andrews said the doses would be put into arms “as fast as we possibly can” to further accelerate the vaccination program.



Lucky? I am not sure why yet more bungling by the Commonwealth of its Primary Care Channel in Victoria is lucky. This is 88,000 doses that were meant to have already been injected by the Commonwealth Primary Channel but they have failed to achieve it.

I mentioned yesterday that we were still waiting to actually see a rise in terms of vaccines in arms delivered by the Primary Care Channel in line with the announced doses going to it in Victoria from supposedly late last week.

Those 88,000 doses should already have been injected by the Commonwealth Primary Channel, and because they have not been the Commonwealth have now agreed that they can this weekend be injected in State Hubs in order to catch up. The Vic Gov offered to do this over a fortnight ago as it has spare capacity to do so its hubs and pop-ups, and the Commonwealth then allocated 30,000 Moderna doses to the State Channel.

All the new GPs now joining should have been added months ago, and the Pharmacies over a month ago and they could have been busy vaccinating with AZ and getting all there systems in place. But instead here we are in the last week in September with the Commonwealth still not having properly deployed its Primary Care Rollout in Vic. Evidently it will take at least another fortnight for Commonwealth to et its act in order. So instead of getting all the outlets up to speed early, the Commonwealth instead has instead been commissioning many of them only about now.

So not only are the now available Moderna doses not being used quickly enough, you also have lost several months of potential AZ doses as way too many GP's and Pharmacists were not approved to deliver any vaccine.
 
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