Strategy to obtain US Amex

[_TheTraveller_]

What US pay platform do you all use? e.g like the using Yakpay in Australia
Does sending money to settle a private debt raise flags with the card provider, specifically Chas and Amex?
What about using Paypal?

Would you not still use Yakpay with a US credit card?

I'm not sure what you mean about using Wise to fund a personal account. Do you mean having WISE debit from a US credit card to pay a personal account in AU?

 

[prozac]

Would you not still use Yakpay with a US credit card?

Because they do not operate in US and MsP (applicant) lives in US. In any event for Yakpay you need an ABN which she does not have.

I'm not sure what you mean about using Wise to fund a personal account. Do you mean having WISE debit from a US credit card to pay a personal account in AU?

Yes, exactly. I am just reading terms now to see if "cash-like" payments (like paying a debt back to her father) do not qualify for MSR. They may not.

 

[Grrr]

C1 won't even allow you to activate without the app and verification.

I was only able to activate my C1 via their IVR.
The app verification failed when it detected a VPN, and when it detected an Aus IP

 

[blacksultan]

What US pay platform do you all use? e.g like the using Yakpay in Australia
Does sending money to settle a private debt raise flags with the card provider, specifically Chas and Amex?
What about using Paypal?
Does anyone use WISE to transfer funds from US internationally to a personal account in order to meet the MSR?

would be considered a cash advance and ineligible for this purpose if I’m not wrong.

 

[_TheTraveller_]

I was only able to activate my C1 via their IVR.
The app verification failed when it detected a VPN, and when it detected an Aus IP

Where did you get the phone number? Does the IVR ask you for an ITIN?

 

[Grrr]

Where did you get the phone number? Does the IVR ask you for an ITIN?

Pretty sure it was listed on the letter that the card was attached to
Can’t remember what it asked

 

[prozac]

would be considered a cash advance and ineligible for this purpose if I’m not wrong.

Thanks for confirmation @blacksultan

Another option could be to add me to the account, an "authorised user" so that I can make up any spend shortfall say on something like council rates.

 

[georgie23]

Thanks for confirmation @blacksultan

Another option could be to add me to the account, an "authorised user" so that I can make up any spend shortfall say on something like council rates.

She probably doesnt even need to add you as an authorised user to pay council rates - you should be able to pay for the rates via CC via online payment methods
But yes - you could get added as an AU if you have ITIN/SSN too

Bank Accounts That Can Be Funded With A Credit Card

A full list of bank accounts that can use a credit card for the initial funding. Including whether it's counted as a cash advance or not on specific cards.

www.doctorofcredit.com

If she is US based she may be able to open a bank acount or two and fund some of the money with a credit card - Some will count as a cash advance, some won't - just an idea

 

[prozac]

She probably doesnt even need to add you as an authorised user to pay council rates - you should be able to pay for the rates via CC via online payment methods
But yes - you could get added as an AU if you have ITIN/SSN too

Bank Accounts That Can Be Funded With A Credit Card

A full list of bank accounts that can use a credit card for the initial funding. Including whether it's counted as a cash advance or not on specific cards.

www.doctorofcredit.com

If she is US based she may be able to open a bank acount or two and fund some of the money with a credit card - Some will count as a cash advance, some won't - just an idea

Of-course, just send her the payment link.

 

[snabbu]

Where did you get the phone number? Does the IVR ask you for an ITIN?

Pretty sure it was listed on the letter that the card was attached to
Can’t remember what it asked

I tried activating via the C1 app (no VPN) which went all the way through to the final stage where it failed and gave me a number to call. I called, the IVR requested standard verification information (can't remember specifically if SSN/ITIN was required) and after verification the IVR stated that because I called from the number on file it was happy to verify me and activate the card.

 

[blacksultan]

Of-course, just send her the payment link.

What bank are we referring to ? ITIN not required for Citi , Amex and chase for AU .

 

[blacksultan]

Hsbc US offering 30 % bonus on transfer to Qatar avios until end of May .

 

[_flyer]

Has anyone been impacted by the latest Amex shutdowns in the US. I don’t know what the all the data points are but it’s appears one is foreign spend on a US card - odd.

 

[georgie23]

Has anyone been impacted by the latest Amex shutdowns in the US. I don’t know what the all the data points are but it’s appears one is foreign spend on a US card - odd.

From what I can decipher it was purchases with links to Chinese buyers group or manufactured spending and in large enough quantities that it flagged as suspicions - from what can tell normal overseas spend like we do is completely fine - but then nothing is guaranteed.

 

[DAC1]

Has anyone been impacted by the latest Amex shutdowns in the US. I don’t know what the all the data points are but it’s appears one is foreign spend on a US card - odd.

It sounded like there was a bit more to it. There was a forum in a foreign language with a large number of users reporting that they had been SD. It wasn’t purely foreign spend, it sounded like there was involvement with BGs and also some tricks being played in relation to Billpay.

 

[levelnine]

There's been multiple waves of Amex and Chase shut downs in the past couple of weeks. I know quite a few people who have been shut down. Lots of different possible reasons for the shut downs, but almost everyone who got shut down knew they were doing activities that put them at risk of shut down. So if you are doing normal spending and paying off your card in a normal way, you'll likely be fine.

However, there are some data points indicating that Amex is derisking by closing accounts of persons doing a lot of international spend. With that said, it's impossible to say what other risk factors are at play — Amex has a lot of expat customers and they're clearly not shutting all of them down.

 

[prozac]

It sounded like there was a bit more to it. There was a forum in a foreign language with a large number of users reporting that they had been SD. It wasn’t purely foreign spend, it sounded like there was involvement with BGs and also some tricks being played in relation to Billpay.

BGs?

 

[georgie23]

Buyers groups - where you buy things and sell back to reach sales on your cards - typically to help reach SUB - eg would be electronic equipment or gift cards but anything realy

 

[DC3]

Buyers groups - where you buy things and sell back to reach sales on your cards

I can’t imagine any AFFers trying that little number

 

[DC3]

Since edited: I can’t imagine any (of our highly respected) AFFers trying that little number