Strategy to obtain US Amex

[levelnine]

Hi everyone,

My ITIN has finally come through. I was going to apply for a Capital One 360 checking account. I have a US Platinum Amex. What is the next CC I should apply for?

What points currencies matter most to you?

 

[blacksultan]

What points currencies matter most to you?

If you are doing to cancel the Amex platinum at some stage and will need an account to store MR - the Amex biz plus

 

[larrymull]

What points currencies matter most to you?

I am basically after sign up bonuses with credit cards. That is the most important thing.

 

[levelnine]

I am basically after sign up bonuses with credit cards. That is the most important thing.

Well the staple diet for a US churner is the following.

One Chase Ink every three months: 110K UR per SUB with P2

One NLL Amex Biz Plat every three months: 125-200K MR per SUB

One NLL Amex Biz Gold every three months: 90-130K MR per SUB

Intersperse with Citi/Barclays AA cards, BoA AS cards, C1 Venture/VX & any particularly attractive Amex/Chase personal cards. Main aim is to remain under 5/24 & not push beyond these velocity limits.

 

[larrymull]

Well the staple diet for a US churner is the following.

One Chase Ink every three months: 110K UR per SUB with P2

One NLL Amex Biz Plat every three months: 125-200K MR per SUB

One NLL Amex Biz Gold every three months: 90-130K MR per SUB

Intersperse with Citi/Barclays AA cards, BoA AS cards, C1 Venture/VX & any particularly attractive Amex/Chase personal cards. Main aim is to remain under 5/24 & not push beyond these velocity limits.

Thanks for the above, are they all happy to ship CC's to OZ?

 

[nj12]

So finally applied for my first Chase Card - SP last week. Called the automated line and got the 7-10 Business days message. Called again a few days later and same time frame so looking at the flowchart it appears i'm headed for a rejection. I'm currently at 3/24 and have two Amex via GT and two more using ITIN with over a year of credit history. I've been a part of this thread since early 2021 so have read most of the historical DP's regarding Chase Cards but just wanting some advice for when I call the human recon line. Has anyone recently had success using a paid Textnow subscription for Chase? As a back-up I have a $3 pre-paid T-Mobile sim that I haven't activated yet but have heard varying levels of success with the short codes for verification. Apart from the county question and previous addresses etc are there any other standard questions i'm likely to encounter? Thanks for your assistance.

 

[blacksultan]

So finally applied for my first Chase Card - SP last week. Called the automated line and got the 7-10 Business days message. Called again a few days later and same time frame so looking at the flowchart it appears i'm headed for a rejection. I'm currently at 3/24 and have two Amex via GT and two more using ITIN with over a year of credit history. I've been a part of this thread since early 2021 so have read most of the historical DP's regarding Chase Cards but just wanting some advice for when I call the human recon line. Has anyone recently had success using a paid Textnow subscription for Chase? As a back-up I have a $3 pre-paid T-Mobile sim that I haven't activated yet but have heard varying levels of success with the short codes for verification. Apart from the county question and previous addresses etc are there any other standard questions i'm likely to encounter? Thanks for your assistance.

Lots of questions for which the answer is mostly no - like how long have u had random card , been employed or stayed st random address . So easy to answer no to all .

 

[Tiki]

Thanks for the above, are they all happy to ship CC's to OZ?

Chase will. Not sure about Cap 1 and Citi. I have also had B of A ship a card to Australia but I have been a customer for 40 years! You will need a good Fico for most of these cards.

Take a look at other Amex cards first. Right now I don't think there are any good SUB's they just ended a couple weeks ago. But several of us were shut out due to pop-up jail. Amex doesn't like people with churning tendancies and opening a lot of cards and not spending seems to trigger them. I shouldn't have closed my Amex Delta card before going for the Green 60k, that might have triggered them although I did wait until over a year (380 days in my case) had passed.

Have a good travel plan and go for cards that give you miles in the programs you want whether it be Star Alliance, One World or Skyteam. Also pay attention to minimum spending, the USD is very strong right now. $4000 USD is around $6200 AUD. Time your apps when you have a high spending requirement like a trip, major appliance and such.

 

[anyonebutqantas]

Well the staple diet for a US churner is the following.

One Chase Ink every three months: 110K UR per SUB with P2

One NLL Amex Biz Plat every three months: 125-200K MR per SUB

One NLL Amex Biz Gold every three months: 90-130K MR per SUB

Intersperse with Citi/Barclays AA cards, BoA AS cards, C1 Venture/VX & any particularly attractive Amex/Chase personal cards. Main aim is to remain under 5/24 & not push beyond these velocity limits.

At the moment Ink Business Preferred is offering 100k for $8k spend, the rest are all offering cashback.

What does NLL Amex mean?

 

[larrymull]

Take a look at other Amex cards first.

Tried to apply for an Amex using my ITIN they want me to call them. Seems to becoming more and more difficult to get a card. Even though I have already a US Amex through GT.

 

[levelnine]

At the moment Ink Business Preferred is offering 100k for $8k spend, the rest are all offering cashback.

What does NLL Amex mean?

The Ink Unlimited and Ink Cash offer UR: $750 cashback = 75,000 UR (+ 40,000 UR for a referral). They advertise as cashback because you need a premium card (the Preferred or a CSP/CSR) to transfer to partners.

NLL = no lifetime language. They are sign-up offers that contain NLL and therefore allow you to sign up for them again even though you've already had one. Google will provide you with plenty of details.

 

[PointsLife1]

Tried to apply for an Amex using my ITIN they want me to call them. Seems to becoming more and more difficult to get a card. Even though I have already a US Amex through GT.

Amex rep told me all ITIN applications you will need to call to verify. Annoying but they seem to just want to confirm you applied.

 

[georgie23]

Amex rep told me all ITIN applications you will need to call to verify. Annoying but they seem to just want to confirm you applied.

Some people have applied for 2nd (and 3rd) via GT - is there any advantage to applying via ITIN than GT - is it about linking up ITIN to credit score?

 

[larrymull]

Amex rep told me all ITIN applications you will need to call to verify. Annoying but they seem to just want to confirm you applied.

Good to know.

 

[PointsLife1]

Good to know.

What card are looking to get? I currently have Brilliant, Green and Surpass with Amex but thinking I need a complete overhaul. Lifetime with Marriott so the new $650 AF is a hard pill to swallow so thinking downgrade to the $95 option, Surpass either upgrade to Aspire or ditch completely as don't put 15k through for free night certificate and Green for $150 it seems better to go with Chase and CSP.

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Some people have applied for 2nd (and 3rd) via GT - is there any advantage to applying via ITIN than GT - is it about linking up ITIN to credit score?

If it keeps working I don't see why not as less hassle but when I did it the data points seem to say only 1 would work so used the ITIN.

 

[larrymull]

What card are looking to get?

A lot of different one's. I just applied for the Gold Amex with my ITIN and that's when they told me to call them. I might try a business one after that.

 

[itsjackson]

I applied for the Amex Green by GT a couple weeks ago and ended up having to provide address verification. I sent a Wiise statement which has been rejected. Now waiting on a US HSBC account to be opened, (I applied on the US website, since no RM was showing on the AU website). I was hoping it would be quick to open like other have said, but seems to be taking a while. What are the chances it will be opened in time?

 

[georgie23]

I applied around same time and got a green card via GT with no issue
Used MyUS address
Had to do video ID proof but no proof of address

Seems to be so much luck involved in all of these processes

 

[albyd]

I applied for the Amex Green by GT a couple weeks ago and ended up having to provide address verification. I sent a Wiise statement which has been rejected. Now waiting on a US HSBC account to be opened, (I applied on the US website, since no RM was showing on the AU website). I was hoping it would be quick to open like other have said, but seems to be taking a while. What are the chances it will be opened in time?

For faster actioning, best to call HSBC's International Banking Center which your AU RM will be able to give you the number. The RMs are otherwise pretty limited in what they can do. It's "feel good" private banking IME (might reflect my account balance) - but it works for me.

Still takes a while IME.

 

[larrymull]

Amex rep told me all ITIN applications you will need to call to verify. Annoying but they seem to just want to confirm you applied.

Managed to get a Capital One Chequing Account sorted, so that will help with verification purposes for AMEX if needed.