Stop Snoring

[JohnK]

It is reasonably easily solved as you can gently wake the offender up. I've had to do it on occasion. There isn't much justification for a single person to snore uninterrupted if they're keeping the rest of the cabin awake.

Apologies again but gentle does not normally wake me up.

One of the things you need to suck up on public transport like noise leaking headphones, loud typing on laptops, loud conversations, recliners etc.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Apologies again but gentle does not normally wake me up.

One of the things you need to suck up on public transport like noise leaking headphones, loud typing on laptops, loud conversations, recliners etc.

Sure - for ultra short haul flights. But with the exception of seat recline, which doesn't really fit in the same category... behaviour which impinges on the amenity of the cabin should be avoided. Loud noise is anti-social. And pax can easily solve it by turning down music, or tapping less heavily. Most of the time they don't even realise they are doing it.

It's never pleasant to have to wake someone up, but sometimes it's the only option.

 

[Dr Ralph]

Monday's flight, domestic CNS-SYD, had pax across aisle snoring rather loudly.

Wish I had ear plugs to not hear him.

Maybe red wine helped him sleep then snore.

A smack to the back of the seat usually works for me.

 

[JohnK]

It's never pleasant to have to wake someone up, but sometimes it's the only option.

Would you wake up someone with force if a light tap did not work? That is classed as assault.

And as I said your definition of disturbance is not the same as mine or the same as the next person.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Would you wake up someone with force if a light tap did not work?

No. Not unless it appeared the person was in imminent danger.

 

[Fifa]

How many of you snorers have had a sleep study done?

 

[Steady]

How many of you snorers have had a sleep study done?

I used to fall asleep after work and I was always tired (apparently I snored..... Obviously they were lying ). I have had a few sleep studies done and now use a CPAP machine - it's the best thing I have ever done. I sleep less and am no longer tired. I am yet to use one on an overnight flight but that will change in October with my Tas to LAX return in Y.

I have not actually seen anyone else using a cpap machine on a flight.

 

[moa999]

How many of you snorers have had a sleep study done?

I had one done after seeing a poor ENT who failed to diagnose a severe sinus infection (had originally gone to see him on the basis of having a blocked nose) but he obviously saw the $$s in an alternative diagnosis.

A second ENT and some hardcore meds (required a call to the hotline) plus a op to shift my septum and reduce the turbos and no ongoing issues (apart from after red wine I believe)

 

[JohnK]

How many of you snorers have had a sleep study done?

To prove we have sleep apnoea?

I have not done a sleep study as I have seen both my parents go through it but let's just say I have sleep apnoea. What is the solution? CPAP machine to stop snoring? Forget that solution. I am not carrying that machine everywhere I go and my anxiety wouldn't allow it anyway. And what about short flights such as SYD-OOL where I fall asleep before take off in 7D?

 

[cove]

After 6 months with the CPAP I was 32% compliant. It takes a while and it does involve working out which face mask suits you.
My health has improved as I don't go low oxygen levels in my body so my heart muscle has an easier time when I am sleeping and not snoring and stopping breathing.I am close to 100% compliant a decade later and I wake up feeling refreshed.

 

[The Beast]

A CPAP machine is not the only option. I recently acquired a Somnodent 'mouthguard' because I didn't wish to inflict my snoring on fellow travellers. I use it every night now, and Beauty is singularly impressed. It requires no batteries and is very compact, which is great for travelling but also not half bad at home. SomnoDent® Product Information for Patients - SomnoMed AustraliaSomnoMed Australia

 

[wooley]

A CPAP machine is not the only option. I recently acquired a Somnodent 'mouthguard' because I didn't wish to inflict my snoring on fellow travellers. I use it every night now, and Beauty is singularly impressed. It requires no batteries and is very compact, which is great for travelling but also not half bad at home. SomnoDent® Product Information for Patients - SomnoMed AustraliaSomnoMed Australia

How do they compare cost wise?

 

[The Beast]

The Somnodent cost me about $1500 (can vary according to what extras cover you have). There are no ongoing costs/consumables. Estimated lifespan 5 - 10 years (hopefully more like the latter). Can't comment re CPAP machines as I don't have one. Again I imagine that health funds may kick in. They must have some operating costs and consumables, but again I can't quantify these. Other AFFers will doubtless be able to advise.

 

[JohnK]

After 6 months with the CPAP I was 32% compliant. It takes a while and it does involve working out which face mask suits you.

Claustrophobia is a weird beast. I get anxiety worrying about it. Not an option.

A CPAP machine is not the only option. I recently acquired a Somnodent 'mouthguard' because I didn't wish to inflict my snoring on fellow travellers.

See answer above. Is there a 3rd option?

I have a problem with my jaw. Locks tight quite often. Sometimes for minutes on end and when I unlock you can hear the noise down the street. Causes anxiety. I have some inflammatory condition. The only solution is to go to dentist to get a mouthguard made to keep my mouth open while I sleep. That's not going to happen either so I suffer.

Wish life was simpler.

 

[Buzzard]

I don't snore much. A elbow to the ribs makes sure.

 

[Steady]

I saw this and thought of this thread

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Last week I did 2x medium haul flights and had a snorer next to me both flights. With earplugs and noise cancelling headphones most of the noise was drowned out but still impacted mine (and likely many others) sleep. I don't know what the solution is as on a plane sleep can be something that is unplanned but I'm sure there's a simple fix in the mind of an entrepreneur out there...

 

[medhead]

After 6 months with the CPAP I was 32% compliant. It takes a while and it does involve working out which face mask suits you.
My health has improved as I don't go low oxygen levels in my body so my heart muscle has an easier time when I am sleeping and not snoring and stopping breathing.I am close to 100% compliant a decade later and I wake up feeling refreshed.

My change was overnight. I was stopping breathing something like 60 times a minute and for upto 90 seconds a time. 8 hours sleep was apparently equivalent to 2 hours for a normal person. I was falling asleep at traffic lights, I almost drove off a dirt track with my boss in the car. Doctor estimated a stroke within 10 years.

I improved overnight, after the first use. But then the doctor says I'm a freak with compliance, 100% from day 1. I can now work a full day on 4 hours sleep - often my monday routine involves 4 hour sleep, 4 am get up for 6 am flight then checking into the hotel at 6:30pm.

Life changing-brilliant

The Somnodent cost me about $1500 (can vary according to what extras cover you have). There are no ongoing costs/consumables. Estimated lifespan 5 - 10 years (hopefully more like the latter). Can't comment re CPAP machines as I don't have one. Again I imagine that health funds may kick in. They must have some operating costs and consumables, but again I can't quantify these. Other AFFers will doubtless be able to advise.

This just highlights the importance of a sleep study and good advice. The muscles in the back of my throat collapse, cpap is possibly the right solution. But if something else works, great.

In terms of cost CPAP machine with humidifier ranges from $2000 to $4000. Mask $300 to $500. All these are possibly cheaper depending on where purchased. My Health Insurance was ok with the initial purchase - Maybe $1500 towards the cost. But they are rubbish for the masks and tubes, which are supposed to be replaced every 2 years. Apparent a $500 mask is a consumable???

Tubes are in the $50 region, mask cost as mentioned. The only other consumable are filters - maybe $2 each replace every few months, and baby wipes for daily cleaning.

To prove we have sleep apnoea?

I have not done a sleep study as I have seen both my parents go through it but let's just say I have sleep apnoea. What is the solution? CPAP machine to stop snoring? Forget that solution. I am not carrying that machine everywhere I go and my anxiety wouldn't allow it anyway. And what about short flights such as SYD-OOL where I fall asleep before take off in 7D?

As much as I'm not friendly. I again strongly encourage you to seek treatment. a heart attack at 50 is not something I'd wish on anybody*. Or driving off the road into a tree. There are some very small CPAP machines around, perfect for travel. Certainly I think my health is more important than the inconvience of having to lug the thing everywhere. You sure don't use them for SYD-OOL. But here's a thought - if you were actually getting a decent sleep you wouldn't fall asleep before take off.


* Except for a certain ex - She deserves everything she gets.

 

[coriander]

Medhead's experience mirror my own. My staff used to find me in my office asleep sitting up, pen in hand writing up cases, having stopped in mid-sentence.

Then one fine afternoon, I('m sure I only) blinked at a traffic light and all the cars in front of me suddenly disappeared :shock:. I could not believe how quickly you could fall asleep, window open, radio on a rock station at high volume, etc.

I booked in for a sleep study the next day, terrified at what the consequences could have been if I'd been on a freeway at speed with the whole family in the car. After diagnosis, I went back for the repeat sleep study, this time with a CPAP machine: I still remember the panic I felt as the machine "inflated" me; I thought this is never going to work. "A few seconds later" , the nurses were waking me at 6.00am because the study was over. I couldn't believe how refreshed I was even on day 1. I've had two RESMED machines since then, an S7 till the motor burned out and now and S9 elite. Both are 100-240v. I used one mask for 10 years and recently have got a new soft mask which is ultra-comfortable. Blood pressure dropped 15 points within a week of starting to use it.

It's the first thing I pack when I'm going away. I usually don't bother with the (removeable) humidifier if I'm on a trip so it's quite compact (think a large punnet of strawberries in size). I don't put it in my hand luggage, so am investigating other devices such as a "snoremender" as a cheap one-night stand option for a trans-Pacific flight.

A good friend of mine got a CPAP machine but returned it because his wife said he looked "grotesque". I suggested not putting it on till after they'd made love (that comment went down like a lead balloon!). He's currently on lord-knows-how-many medications for blood pressure and fatigue and they sleep in separate rooms because of the noise he generates (in which case the grotesqueness wouldn't be an issue, you'd think).

As medhead suggests, get a sleep study done and go from there. Your very life may depend on it.

 

[medhead]

Same S9 elite. Don't bother with the humidifer except at home. But do travel with it in hand luggage and do use it on the plane, with a battery (thanks Cove) - mainly when in J.

SWMBO was highly disappointed that I didn't sound like Darth Vadar. I think she wanted to send it back and get an iron lung, or something like that.