RTW question - again

[Leumas]

Actually I think you have 8 segments (since there is no YVR-LAX). Are there any LCCs between New York and Columbus (or one of the nearby cities)?

jfk-bos-cmh-stl-den-dfw-yvr-lax I can only see seven segments as lhr-jfk and lax-syd seem to be classed as intercontinental, can you advise.

Also with NM's suggestion jfk,lga-cmh-stl-den-dfw-yvr-lax is only six, but the yvr-lax is still the problem

I think what Kiwi Flyer means is since you can't go YVR-LAX - you've to go YVR-DFW-LAX, you'll have 8 NA segments.

Yes, you counted 7, but it's a mute point because it's an invalid routing.

Edited to add: Is the order of the city important? I don't know whether this will work, perhaps NM or Kiwi Flyer can advise. Can you catch the QF107, stop at LAX for a few days, continue to JFK also on QF107. Since it's the same flight number, it's still one segment (is this allowable)?

If you go LAX-JFK-BOS-CMH-STL-DEN-DFW-YVR-LHR, assuming LAX-JFK doesn't count, then you can fit it with 6 segments. Worst case will be you buy an extra segment, making it 7. Of course, you'll buy the shortest and cheapest one...

 

[Reggie]

Thanks everyone, I'm off to see the TA (company policy to use TA) tommorrow and book it. If anyones interested I'll let you know what happens.

 

[straitman]

Thanks everyone, I'm off to see the TA (company policy to use TA) tommorrow and book it. If anyones interested I'll let you know what happens.

Please keep us informed. There's always someone who will learn from the information provided. 8)

 

[Dave Noble]

Thanks everyone, I'm off to see the TA (company policy to use TA) tommorrow and book it. If anyones interested I'll let you know what happens.

Can you direct the TA to book through AA rather than , say, QF?

Dave

 

[Reggie]

Dave,

Probably could do it through AA, but based on this trip with a centre leg I learnt on another thread here at AFF, I should requal for QF WP this year, plus maybe able to upgrade to F whilst using the F lounges where applicable.

 

[Dave Noble]

Dave,

Probably could do it through AA, but based on this trip with a centre leg I learnt on another thread here at AFF, I should requal for QF WP this year, plus maybe able to upgrade to F whilst using the F lounges where applicable.

Earning miles is a different issue. Booking through AA makes no effect on the mileage earning issues, what it will do is lower the cost

Dave

 

[Reggie]

Dave

Derrr, sorry Dave just realised what you meant, you were talking about booking with AA. I thought you were refering to the AACT.

Is there a cost benefit or something else through booking with AA?

 

[Reggie]

Sorry Dave I was writing my second response when you replied. Your broadband must be too fast for my dialup

 

[Dave Noble]

Is there a cost benefit or something else through booking with AA?

Yes. The Fuel Fines charged by Qantas are significantly higher than those charged by AA and you'll save a few hundred dollars

Dave

 

[Reggie]

I could use the savings to buy broadband if the three amigo's from telstra ever decide to put it into my exchange

 

[cabbage74]

....Can you catch the QF107, stop at LAX for a few days, continue to JFK also on QF107. Since it's the same flight number, it's still one segment (is this allowable)?...

I believe that since the first QF107 (SYD-LAX) would have commenced on day x. You then stop over for y days. Therefore the next QF107 (LAX-JFK) commenced on day x+y then they are considered separate segments despite the same flight number.

So this is not allowable (as one segment).

Mal.

 

[NM]

I think you mean CMH not Colombo!

There goes my lysdexia again . I should apply to be the president of the DNA (National Dyslexia Association).

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Intercontinental legs dont count towards number of free included continental flights, but trans-continental legs do count.

jfk-bos-cmh-stl-den-dfw-yvr-dfw-lax is 8 legs (no OW yvr-lax direct)

 

[Reggie]

I've just had confirmation from the TA. The following is what has been booked. They wouldn't book it through AA

per-sing-lhr-cdg-lhr-jfk in D
lga-cmh-stl-den-dfw in WHY
dfw-yvr in D

yvr-lax Seperate booking as I dont have time to yvr-dfw-lax

lax-syd-bne-isa-bne-per in D

Total price was just under AUD10,070. this was allowing approx $300 for yvr-lax and $110 booking fee.

Intersting postnote is that the TA has told us we need to pay by end of the week, as all the RTW fares and rules are changing. QF haven't told them what to as yet, but obviously the fares are going up, but apparently the rule changes will make it more restrictive.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

lga-cmh-stl-den-dfw in WHY

I assume these are all one-class flights or have no availability in A booking class? DONEx should book into A (first class) on 2-class AA domestic flights (for dfw-yvr the higher class is business so D is correct).

 

[serfty]

I've just had confirmation from the TA. The following is what has been booked. They wouldn't book it through AA

per-sing-lhr-cdg-lhr-jfk in D
lga-cmh-stl-den-dfw in WHY
dfw-yvr in D

yvr-lax Seperate booking as I dont have time to yvr-dfw-lax

lax-syd-bne-isa-bne-per in D

Total price was just under AUD10,070. this was allowing approx $300 for yvr-lax and $110 booking fee.

Intersting postnote is that the TA has told us we need to pay by end of the week, as all the RTW fares and rules are changing. QF haven't told them what to as yet, but obviously the fares are going up, but apparently the rule changes will make it more restrictive.

DANGER DANGER DANGER.

If you are travelling on a DONEx ticket.. North American flights between and within USA/Canada book in to A class if there is no Business class, not WHY. A class is discount FIRST.

Fix this immediatly, once ticketed you will be stuffed without reticketing and a minimum USD125 cost.

Quote your TA this rule:

NOTE: WHEN THE CLASS OF SERVICE FOR THE FARE IS NOT OFFERED BOOK IN THE NEXT LOWER CLASS OF SERVICE USING THE BOOKING CLASSES ABOVE
EXCEPTION - FOR SERVICES WITHIN/BETWEEN THE USA AND CANADA WHERE NO BUSINESS CLASS IS OFFERED BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS MAY BOOK AND TRAVEL IN FIRST CLASS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY

 

[NM]

As serfty says, they have booked you in the wrong class for the AA domestic flights. Get back to the TA and tell them to book you into A class (First Class) as you are entitled for AA domestic flights on a business class One World Explorer ticket.

This is a common mistake by TA's not used to booking such fares, and a very good reason to book through the AA Around The World desk where their agents are very well versed in the rules.

 

[Reggie]

Kiwi Flyer correct these flights are purely economy configuration, I had checked on the AA webpage prior to going in to the TA, and the TA did recheck. If you guys know differently please let me know

NM and serfty I am actually booked in A for DEN-DFW, and D for the only leg that has business which is DFW to VYR. My mistake

Thanks for your extremely prompt replys and warnings.

Have you heard of the rule changes that she talks about

 

[serfty]

dup.

 

[NM]

Kiwi Flyer correct these flights are purely economy configuration, I had checked on the AA webpage prior to going in to the TA, and the TA did recheck. If you guys know differently please let me know

NM and serfty I am actually booked in A for DEN-DFW, and D for the only leg that has business which is DFW to VYR. My mistake

Thanks for your extremely prompt replys and warnings.

Have you heard of the rule changes that she talks about

Ouch, the Beagle Bites again! Those should actually be looked in Y and not L as would be the case if not A on a 2-class service. So for QF earning, they are full Y for SC and points.