Royal Brunei Airlines and LGBTI travellers

[tgh]

Interesting conversation.. carry on…...

 

[Quickstatus]

I don't think many people would think that stoning people to death is a punishment that should exist.....

In some places in the world they do

 

[Buzzard]

Let's face it. We haven't agreed with "them" and they haven't agreed with "us" for over 2000 years. We will never see eye to eye.

 

[DC3]

… and this is all in the name of religion?

 

[dajop]

Let's face it. We haven't agreed with "them" and they haven't agreed with "us" for over 2000 years. We will never see I to I.

I think it's more complicated than that, depending on who you define as "us" and "them". If "them" is muslims, it's closer to 1400 years to be pedantic. And if that is what you define as "them", many of "them" do not see eye to eye with each other either, to put it mildly.

Like all of humanity, there is huge variation in what is acceptable or not. There are studies into views of stoning, which suggest in some countries there is not a lot of support for it amongst Muslims (eg. Bosnia, Albania .. 6%) and heaps of support (eg.86% in Pakistan). Also there are outliers in Christianity that seem to support it as well in relatively recent times.

 

[Steady]

Also there are outliers in Christianity that seem to support it as well in relatively recent times.

Who are these outliers your referring to? Stoning was a Jewish practice- it’s not a Christian concept

 

[dajop]

Who are these outliers your referring to? Stoning was a Jewish practice- it’s not a Christian concept

Did come across these two, as per article on stoning that I have now linked:

Gary North (economist) - Wikipedia
R. J. Rushdoony - Wikipedia

As I said, outliers (and that's being polite).

 

[Steady]

Did come across these two, as per article on stoning that I have now linked:

Gary North (economist) - Wikipedia
R. J. Rushdoony - Wikipedia

As I said, outliers (and that's being polite).

Yes, outliers - twisted ones at that

 

[Buzzard]

I think it's more complicated than that, depending on who you define as "us" and "them". If "them" is muslims, it's closer to 1400 years to be pedantic. And if that is what you define as "them", many of "them" do not see eye to eye with each other either, to put it mildly.

I used us and them in a generic context in an attempt to refer to opposing views. Humanity just can't agree on what is right or wrong, acceptable or not. We just have such differing values.
Somebody said to me once that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

[ozfflyer]

Here we go... Apparently Flight Centre has been lashed for daring to not refund non-refundable portions of ticket prices to Brunei for those who seemingly did not google the holiday destination they had booked until today:

Fearful customers face hundreds in fees as their flee brutal regime’s airline

Cue the short-term political football.

Edit: Changed the description of what they are being accused of as it was even more silly than my first summary.

Flight centre doesn't refund the airlines do. If airlines don't refund to flight centre, they can't

 

[drron]

I think it's more complicated than that, depending on who you define as "us" and "them". If "them" is muslims, it's closer to 1400 years to be pedantic. And if that is what you define as "them", many of "them" do not see eye to eye with each other either, to put it mildly.

And they proved it in Melbourne-
Terror accused called Shi'ites 'cuckoo' - 9News

Shia mosque firebombed by Sunnis.

 

[amaroo]

Little old Brunei looks likes it’s being selectively subjected to punitive boycotts and such. Pity the celebrities of the world don’t have a backbone for taking the fight up to some of the larger players that have had the same laws in place for years.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Little old Brunei looks likes it’s being selectively subjected to punitive boycotts and such.

But out of al of those it only looks like Brunei has a prssence in AU via an airline or other commercial business interests like hotels that might be government owned? (I dunno, maybe the Saudi government has interests in hotel chains etc)

 

[amaroo]

Saudi’s would have their fingers in just about everything. It was only a couple of months ago that the bloke who’s slowing going broke building Tesla’s was tweeting that the Prince was going to buy all the other investors out.

They still own 5% of Tesla - does that mean everyone should dump the car and Musk? Maybe SA should destroy their Saudi funded batteries...

Strange Bedfellows: Saudi Arabia And Tesla Inc.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Saudi’s would have their fingers in just about everything. It was only a couple of months ago that the bloke who’s slowing going broke building Tesla’s was tweeting that the Prince was going to buy all the other investors out.

They still own 5% of Tesla - does that mean everyone should dump the car and Musk? Maybe SA should destroy their Saudi funded batteries...

Strange Bedfellows: Saudi Arabia And Tesla Inc.

i guess that's the thing each individual has to work out. For a country as small as Brunei with just 300,000 tourists a year, maybe a 20% decline would make a difference.

 

[drron]

Qatar still has the death penalty on the books but not enforced.
I believe Iraq after 2003 removed the death penalty.Probably back when ISIS controlled territory.
But also illegal in Dubai,Abu Dhabi,Malaysia,Singapore which all have airlines servicing Australia.

 

[amaroo]

i guess that's the thing each individual has to work out. For a country as small as Brunei with just 300,000 tourists a year, maybe a 20% decline would make a difference.

Hence my “selective” boycott comment.

 

[amaroo]

Qatar still has the death penalty on the books but not enforced.
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Until someone decides to enforce the law ... so many double standards.

If people want to boycott - don’t stuff around with ignorant tweeter stuff, do the research and do the job properly.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hence my “selective” boycott comment.

What you're suggesting is that no one shou'd take up any cause unless they can take up every cause? People are taking a stand against this particular country and airline because they feel it directly affects them.

There's 'selective' and there's 'effective'.

 

[oz_mark]

Qatar still has the death penalty on the books but not enforced.

"On the books but not enforced" is one thing. Actively adding it to your books is another...