Royal Brunei Airlines and LGBTI travellers

[MEL_Traveller]

Silly comment (and not even funny). I'm sure JohnK didn't mean that at all: what he was stating how the sexes complement each other, but are not identical in their talents. God created us to complement each other.

... was perhaps the view in the dark ages.

The only place men and women need to complement each other is in the procreation department. That's physical. There is no difference in (potential) talent between men and women.

Except, of course, that women seem to demonstrate their talent a lot more than men do.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I happened to be president of the Maitland Branch then as well as being the Campaign Manager in 2 State elections in the early 80s.I then stood for the Federal seat in 1984.

Ahhh! That explains a lot

 

[drron]

Unfortunately science tells us there are indeed differences between men and women.
The important thing is to have equal opportunity.

 

[tgh]

stood for the Federal seat in 1984

silly boy……

 

[drron]

Ahhh! That explains a lot

Almost certainly not what you think.

 

[JessicaTam]

[mod hat]
This thread is heading quite off-topic.

Please limit discussion to the OP.
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[kelvedon]

Brunei has now backtracked on the new laws introduced last month that made sex between men and adultery punishable by stoning to death.

Brunei says it won't enforce death penalty for gay sex

The nation has been facing a backlash after introducing the strict new rules last month.

www.bbc.com

 

[drron]

Brunei takes death penalty off the table.

Brunei Won't Enforce Death Penalty For Gay Sex

After facing international backlash, Brunei's sultan has announced that the country won't in fact be enforcing the death penalty for gay sex and adultery.

onemileatatime.com

 

[Max Samuels]

.... I should also point out that in Singaporean Criminal Law Section 377A still makes Same Sex activities illegal and still being enforced (rarely these days). Are we all going to boycott Singapore Airlines and its partners like Virgin Australia?

Yep. I have boycotted SIA for at least the past 10 years. Whenever it was they last hanged some poor kid for drugs. The double standards that these tyrannical governments live by makes me crazy... the people kept under thumb while the ruling elite do whatever they please - often things that would be punishable by death for their own people

I never felt "good" about going via Dubai on QF - and I am not super thrilled going via Singapore either.
I cannot wait until the next generation of super long range and super luxurious jets arrives (however long that will be!) Then we can all fly non-stop and the need to stop in places like Brunei, Singapore, Dubai etc will become a thing of the past...

 

[Quickstatus]

Backtracking in the sense they are only extending the moratorium. I doubt it will make any difference in the decisions of potential gay visitors

 

[andye]

Backtracking in the sense they are only extending the moratorium. I doubt it will make any difference in the decisions of potential gay visitors

Agreed but might be enough to sway less engaged (or endangered) boycotters

 

[Melburnian1]

With the time lag reflecting that it takes a few weeks to collect and process information from individual airlines, BITRE has only issued Australian international passenger and freight aviation statistics for January 2019.

Given that the majority of international leisure bookings to southeast Asia and beyond are made at least six weeks in advance - and many much earlier - one may not be able to discern any 'backlash' from this Sharia law imposition until about the June figures.

It's complicated by how BI has also (particularly northbound) had a major timetable change ex MEL with introduction of nonstop flights BWN to LHR instead of the previous one-stop via DXB. This change meant that the previous same day both-ways Asian connections were no longer available northbound, requiring STPC (airline provided free hotel stay) in Brunei. This has made trips MEL to Asia on BI unattractive for most. One agent I know who used to book many passengers onto BI says his business with it has dropped to practically zero, as clearly it's concentrating far more on the MEL - LHR market (and typically pricing at the bottom).

A further difficulty in assessing reaction is that because BI's fares tend to be the cheapest, in theory (if better known and effectively promoted) it could fill its sole aircraft to and ex Australia each night/day because demand for 'cheap seats' is more than the capacity of one aircraft. However knowledge that this airline even operates to/from Oz must be lacking in the general community and nor do big travel agents promote it much (although latter is true for many airlines such as AC, CA, KE, MU, NH, OZ, PR to name a few - how often have you seen Flight Centre promote these?)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The had a recent advertising campaign on television. Their pricing isn’t overly cheap though, especially their business class fares which are in the $5000 range. But apparently a lot of repeat business and word of mouth to fill these cabins.

 

[Melburnian1]

...Their pricing isn’t overly cheap though, especially their business class fares which are in the $5000 range. But apparently a lot of repeat business and word of mouth to fill these cabins.

MEL, I should have clarified that my comments on fare pricing were for Y travel as that's what those on a budget can typically afford.

In reading online reviews from various sites, I agree that this airline seems to have its fans. But not me, even though I've used it for two return trips.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Their standard $999 isn’t really that cheap these days. Lead in prices are in the $800-900, with full service including alcohol. The potential advantage of RB is the fairly direct flight and supposedly good legroom/food.

 

[jase05]

MEL, I should have clarified that my comments on fare pricing were for Y travel as that's what those on a budget can typically afford.

In reading online reviews from various sites, I agree that this airline seems to have its fans. But not me, even though I've used it for two return trips.

Wouldn’t call myself a fan but have used them a few times from MEL to MNL and other Asian ports and have found them quite decent especially for their price