QF1 from SIN diversion to Baku, Azerbaijan (GYD)

milehighclub · Dec 23, 2022

I have a feeling OQH could be spending Xmas in Baku.

kangarooflyer88 · Dec 23, 2022

milehighclub said:
I have a feeling OQH could be spending Xmas in Baku.

Christmas in Baku. I don't know if that's the title of a horror or mystery story!

nancypants · Dec 23, 2022

clifford said:
But perhaps Yerevan (EVN) would have been more suitable. Has 3850x56m runway and "is capable of accepting Airbus 380...".

Looks like it was nearer to EVN, but maybe a political thing? Russia vs Islamic dictator? Or don't these kind of things count?

Yerevan is not in Russia

Princess Fiona · Dec 23, 2022

kangarooflyer88 said:
Whoever is on that flight must be might happy since they'll be receiving UK261 compensation!

No they won’t.
It only applies to non EU/UK airlines departing from the EU/UK

There’s no responsibility for QF to pay this inbound to LHR

serfty · Dec 23, 2022

kangarooflyer88 said:
Whoever is on that flight must be might happy since they'll be receiving UK261 compensation!

Nup!

UK261 only applies to Qantas PAX for flights departing the UK.

[EDIT]Apologies if you were specifically referring to QF2.

UK261 certainly would not apply for QF1 as per the title of this thread.[/EDIT]

dajop · Dec 23, 2022

Princess Fiona said:
No they won’t.
It only applies to non EU/UK airlines departing from the EU/UK

There’s no responsibility for QF to pay this inbound to LHR

serfty said:
Nup!

UK261 only applies to Qantas PAX for flights departing the UK.

I thought this too, and was about to post the same, but to be fair UK261 was discussed in context of the retimed QF2, not QF1. Delays to QF2 ex-LHR do fall in the sphere of UK 261.

In any event, I don't I'd be "mighty happy" to receive compensation for arriving at 7pm on Dec 25 instead of 7am ...

Hvr · Dec 23, 2022

dajop said:
In any event, I don't I'd be "mighty happy" to receive compensation for arriving at 7pm on Dec 25 instead of 7am .

Yet knowing the reason for the delay would you really complain?

cove · Dec 23, 2022

We are watching how Qantas deals with their problem. Not sure if the level of difficulty is beyond an 8 in getting the passengers to London. Everyone has plans around Christmas.

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Saab34 · Dec 23, 2022

cove said:
We are watching how Qantas deals with their problem. Not sure if the level of difficulty is beyond an 8 in getting the passengers to London. Everyone has plans around Christmas.

Jump in the ops centre and I can assure you it’s a 10 in terms of trying to facilitate the whole thing. It’s not easy when you are relying on airport management etc to deal with it first up and start the dialogue with the company. The passengers will probably be in the airport until sunset before they can reach a hotel. Sorting out Visa’s will be a nightmare, as seen in that Singapore example.

The media will give them a belting no doubt, however what is the easy way out of these things?

PineappleSkip · Dec 23, 2022

kangarooflyer88 said:
OneWorld for that matter) doesn't have any presence in this part of the world.

QR and S7 both have regular flights into GYD

transpactraveller said:
I don't know the entry rules for Azerbaijan

Australians can get an e-visa in advance or apply at the airport (I did the lattter)

If there was an issue for people entering the country, it's their COVID restrictions, about which they are pretty conservative.

Cheers skip

Princess Fiona · Dec 23, 2022

cove said:
We are watching how Qantas deals with their problem. Not sure if the level of difficulty is beyond an 8 in getting the passengers to London. Everyone has plans around Christmas.

My daughters have been following this story and reminded us that last Christmas we left Australia for London on Dec 18th as we weren’t feeling lucky about getting there.

I appreciate with work etc not everyone has this luxury.

dajop · Dec 23, 2022

Hvr said:
Yet knowing the reason for the delay would you really complain?

Definitely wouldn't complain about the compensation or the delay. knowing the reason, but also not going celebrate or be "mighty happy" for the compensation. I get the sense that some folk if given the choice between a 12+ hr delay and compensation would take the compensation, but particularly on Dec 25, if given the choice between the compensation and re-routing on a different carrier (unlikely I know at this time of year) to arrive at a similar time, I'd probably take the latter, and I suspect many others would too.

Must...Fly! · Dec 23, 2022

Saab34 said:
Jump in the ops centre and I can assure you it’s a 10 in terms of trying to facilitate the whole thing. It’s not easy when you are relying on airport management etc to deal with it first up and start the dialogue with the company. The passengers will probably be in the airport until sunset before they can reach a hotel. Sorting out Visa’s will be a nightmare, as seen in that Singapore example.

The media will give them a belting no doubt, however what is the easy way out of these things?

Absolute nightmare stuff to be in operations. Worst time of year for something like this to boot. Glad I'm not dealing with it. My head hurts thinking about just the few options I can come up with sitting here.

TheInsider · Dec 23, 2022

Looks like an updated time now. Hopefully won't run into issues in LHR with their curfew.

Saab34 · Dec 23, 2022

Crew would be out of hours would they not?

Sending in a new crew from LHR seems challenging considering the lack of direct flights into this place.

milehighclub · Dec 23, 2022

Saab34 said:
Crew would be out of hours would they not?

Sending in a new crew from LHR seems challenging considering the lack of direct flights into this place.

Yes. But sending a new crew in isn't always the best/fastest option. Giving crew the required rest and then out of there is more likely to be quicker, assuming the aircraft is serviceable.

dajop · Dec 23, 2022

Saab34 said:
Crew would be out of hours would they not?

If rescheduled to dep at 22:30 Saturday, given that I post this at 14:50 Friday, Baku time, one perhaps would think by then they wouldn't be out of hours ...

Melburnian1 · Dec 23, 2022

Saab34 said:
Crew would be out of hours would they not?

Sending in a new crew from LHR seems challenging considering the lack of direct flights into this place.

Assuming they can be in an hotel (maybe a big ask), the crew would have had more than sufficinet minimum rest by then, surely.

Hvr · Dec 23, 2022

Must...Fly! said:
Absolute nightmare stuff to be in operations.

Here's what the IOC looked like when we visited a few years ago.

Saab34 · Dec 23, 2022

dajop said:
If rescheduled to dep at 22:30 Saturday, given that I post this at 14:50 Friday, Baku time, one perhaps would think by then they wouldn't be out of hours

Thanks, sorry I missed the Saturday bit, was still thinking it was a same day departure.

Hopefully the aircraft is serviceable so it can get out tomorrow!

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