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d15.in.oz

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<div class="bbWrapper"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">A recent <i>schedule change email</i> from QF, prompted me to look at an upcoming (<i>all economy I thought</i>) QantasLink 717 segment on CheckMyTrip…</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I don’t know if it is <i>just</i> a feature of the <i>new version</i> of CheckMyTrip, but the flight I am booked on now appears as “</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Premium economy</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">”!</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Venturing a little further, and checking my booking on the Qantas website reveals – </span></span><br /> <b><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Status:</span></span></b><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> Confirmed</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">, <i>but no class for that segment! (Previously it was “Economy”)</i></span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">So, is this just a flaw in reading QF booking codes, or something more?!</span></span></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">I dont think that the Fourth Cabin (assumed to be Y+ but it could be F+ or even the bowling alley<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" />) is planned until the A380 comes on line (along with everything else I guess...)</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> simongr said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I dont think that the Fourth Cabin (assumed to be Y+ but it could be F+ or even the bowling alley<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" />) is planned until the A380 comes on line (along with everything else I guess...) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">There is more than JUST the top end of the fleet (<i>and flights to HKG</i>) where QF has to compete! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /> </span></span></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> d15.in.oz said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I don’t know if it is <i>just</i> a feature of the <i>new version</i> of CheckMyTrip, but the flight I am booked on now appears as “</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Premium economy</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">”!</span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">On my upcoming RTW award the first 2 flights which are QF segments, QF136, QF25 are appearing as Premium Economy, the last 2 flights which are QF segments, QF30, QF188 are appearing as Economy Restricted, t</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">he AA segments are appearing as Economy Restricted, the BA segments are appearing as Economy and the AY segments are appearing as Economy Restricted.</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">As far as I know I am travelling in economy. I think the new version of CheckMyTrip has a few issues. </span></span></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">On my upcoming RTW award ..</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">. </span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Ahhhh... my flight is an award as well!</span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">P.S. enjoy your upcoming 3 breakfasts + muffin, <i>SFO without SFO experience</i>!</span></span></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> d15.in.oz said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">P.S. enjoy your upcoming 3 breakfasts + muffin, <i>SFO without SFO experience</i>!</span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Are you referring to the F lounge run? I was hoping to get a steak sandwich in MEL. :shock:<br /> <br /> Oh well, I will have to just drown my sorrows....</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Are you referring to the F lounge run? I was hoping to get a steak sandwich in MEL. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>LOL</span></span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">It is VERY evident that MEL QF lounges go through a <i>“phase shift</i>” once the QF SFO flight departs! I am going to assume, that this transition marks the <i>change</i> between breakfast &amp; “all day” menus! </span></span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Oh well, I will have to just drown my sorrows.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I guess that means when you arrive back in SYD T1, you will take the train to T3/T2 and alternate between the (<i>WP access anytime</i>) HPs! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></span> </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><b>ENJOY YOUR (plural) DAY</b></span></span></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> d15.in.oz said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">I guess that means when you arrive back in SYD T1, you will take the train to T3/T2 and alternate between the (<i>WP access anytime</i>) HPs! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></span> </span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No Crown Lager or Bluetongue early in the morning in the MEL F lounge? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> No Crown Lager or Bluetongue early in the morning in the MEL F lounge? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span style="font-size: 9px">OMG you start early, I thought I was bad enough hoeing into the <i>bubbles</i> that time of morning... Although in the old <i>hideous</i> QF MEL T2 FL (we don't forget), I could hide away from view in the &quot;kitchen&quot; area and drink the wicked stuff before </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">noon</span></span><span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">!</span></span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">P.S. MEL SQ PPS…why are you not upstairs? To MEL airport: BAD <span style="font-size: 9px">e<i>r</i>kkkkk</span> MOVE!</span></span></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> [/FONT][/COLOR]<br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">On my upcoming RTW award the first 2 flights which are QF segments, QF136, QF25 are appearing as Premium Economy, the last 2 flights which are QF segments, QF30, QF188 are appearing as Economy Restricted, t</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">he AA segments are appearing as Economy Restricted, the BA segments are appearing as Economy and the AY segments are appearing as Economy Restricted.</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">As far as I know I am travelling in economy. I think the new version of CheckMyTrip has a few issues. </span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Nothing to do with the new version, it has often had issues with award classes. Methunks that the 1st 2 QF flights are in T class and that is being misinterpreted as Premium Economy ( as used by BA ) whilst the latter ones are in X class and correctly interpreted as restricted economy. <br /> <br /> BA used to use R class for award WT+ and that used to get interpreted as being for Concorde (as R was Full paid Supersonic class) and more recently they used P for WT+ which used to be interpreted as First ( since paid first used to be P )<br /> <br /> Not really CMTs fault to be fair<br /> <br /> Dave</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> d15.in.oz said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="color: #312f2f"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">OMG you start early, I thought I was bad enough hoeing into the <i>bubbles</i> that time of morning...</span></span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Beer o'clock officially starts around the time I would normally finish a round of golf in the morning, which is around 10:00am sometimes earlier.<br /> <br /> If I am flying then beer o'clock starts as early as my flight. Nothing like a relaxing beer before boarding.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">My QF29 flight also shows as &quot;Premium Economy&quot;. Well I can certainly agree that sitting in 3K and 4K on that flight was certainly some premium over standard economy :mrgreen: .</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> JohnK said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> No Crown Lager or Bluetongue early in the morning in the MEL F lounge? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><b>JohnK</b>, I'm sure the MEL FLounge bar will be available for any hands-on critique you may wish to apply. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">An article in today's The Australian confirming the introduction of premium economy on the new A380's.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <b>QANTAS is adding a fourth class to some of its planes - a premium economy seat that will offer a cheaper alternative to business class.</b><br /> <br /> The airline confirmed over the weekend that it would join airlines such as British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and Air New Zealand in offering premium economy when its new double-decker Airbus A380 superjumbo is introduced next year. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22040291-23349,00.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow noopener">See article here</a></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> Shano said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> An article in today's The Australian confirming the introduction of premium economy on the new A380's.<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22040291-23349,00.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow noopener">See article here</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> YAY!!<br /> <br /> Premium Economy on the A368 and probably the 787s!! Great move!!<br /> <br /> I bet they are shell seats!<br /> <br /> Can't wait, QF are certainly hammering out some good stuff lately (just been to the new F lounge haha <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /> )</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> The Australian said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Other airlines have seen a strong response to the introduction of premium economy, which is priced higher than a full economy fare but is significantly cheaper than business class. It typically offers increased leg room as well as better food, wine and other amenities. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Guess they arent referring to BA there - same food as whY I believe.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">I must admit that I am a bit concerned by the words &quot;.....which is priced higher than a full economy fare....&quot;.<br /> <br /> Considering how expensive a full Y fare is from say MEL to LAX (currently ~$8,000), just how attractive is Y+ going to be.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Maybe more attractive than the $13K J fare. :shock:</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I agree more appealing than J, and considering the yields on flights to/from LAX, I guess plenty of people are currently paying up to $8,000 for Y and the $11,000 for J.<br /> <br /> My concern is more with people (such as myself) who fly internationally on B fares or lower, who could probably convince their employer of the benefits of Y+ for a nominal fare increase, but not if this difference is more than 2 x the <i>standard</i> economy fare.<br /> <br /> In hindsight this was proably a bad example to use due to lack of competition on the US route.<br /> <br /> I would hope that flights through Asia to Europe would be priced somewhere near the offerings from the competition.</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> Shano said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I would hope that flights through Asia to Europe would be priced somewhere near the offerings from the competition. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Interesting that the article in the paper, as opposed to the on-line version, finishes with this paragraph:<br /> <br /> &quot;Mr Dixon also said it was likely the new superjumbo [the A380] would begin services to Dubai.&quot;<br /> <br /> I wonder is this is a new service? If it will then go through to LHR? And does it mean skipping Singapore?</div>
 
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