QF Economy Urination Policy

[markh]

Flew CNS-MEL 11th Nov and they were not allowed to shut the curtain between Y & J (CSM gratiously allowed Y customers to use the J toilet) but on the return MEL-CNS they had just received notification that they could shut the curtain again and reinforce the Y & J toilet rule.

 

[Mal]

Flew CNS-MEL 11th Nov and they were not allowed to shut the curtain between Y & J (CSM gratiously allowed Y customers to use the J toilet) but on the return MEL-CNS they had just received notification that they could shut the curtain again and reinforce the Y & J toilet rule.

This is very weird. Think about it for 2 seconds - One way is ok, but the return is no go?

Methinks that the ones on the return flights didn't know what they were doing and blabbered the usual stuff they're used to saying.

From my understanding, domestic flights must remain curtain free due to Qantas policies.

 

[anat0l]

This is very weird. Think about it for 2 seconds - One way is ok, but the return is no go?

Methinks that the ones on the return flights didn't know what they were doing and blabbered the usual stuff they're used to saying.

From my understanding, domestic flights must remain curtain free due to Qantas policies.

From what I heard, the curtain must be left open because there may be a sky marshal on board. No one knows (or is supposed to know) where he/she is, but they must have direct line of sight of the coughpit doors.

The closing of the curtain could mean someone is compromising the overall security of the plane.

Of course, take this all with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Cyclogenesis]

I didn't think we did the whole sky marshal thing here in Aus (I would be much happier if we didn't! Zero guns are better than one gun no matter who has it!)

 

[Mal]

I didn't think we did the whole sky marshal thing here in Aus (I would be much happier if we didn't! Zero guns are better than one gun no matter who has it!)

Yeah we do... Here's a news article from 2004 describing the program (couldn't find a better link) US, Australian flights soon to have air marshals - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Domestic started in 2001, and has had ups and downs staff wise... but still exists. Have never seen one (that I know of), but am aware that they do some sectors.

 

[Cyclogenesis]

Yeah we do... Here's a news article from 2004 describing the program (couldn't find a better link) US, Australian flights soon to have air marshals - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Domestic started in 2001, and has had ups and downs staff wise... but still exists. Have never seen one (that I know of), but am aware that they do some sectors.

Thanks Mal...

So wonder how that works in international configs (eg 747) does the marshal have to be in the top deck J cabin?

Hmm..

(sorry... will stop the hijack (pardon the pun) now)

 

[Mal]

So wonder how that works in international configs (eg 747) does the marshal have to be in the top deck J cabin?

Sky Marshals could be in any cabin or seat ... If there was one SYD-SIN, I'd expect them to be upstairs in J near the cabin, but they could also be in Y watching pax.

The program is well defined (somewhere). Just not willing to research it properly now to find all of the answers.

In the U.S, they are easy to spot, and I believe I have spotted a few in my travels. For flights to the U.S, they are also often onboard (and will loiter around the toilets often!). I suspect though that the Australian ones are a little more discrete how they operate.

 

[klavdy]

The Seppo ones often wear Rolex, Omega or high end G-Shock watches.
Fit, alert eyed and short haired.
Aisle seats.

Aussie ones, program has withered and died.

 

[serfty]

Reports indicated said curtain needs to remain open on Domestic 737 flights only.

Either this 1) has indeed changed recently, or 2) the MEL-CNS CSM was dealing with the issue their own way.

 

[markh]

Reports indicated said curtain needs to remain open on Domestic 737 flights only.

Either this 1) has indeed changed recently, or 2) the MEL-CNS CSM was dealing with the issue their own way.

Sorry should have clarified - the CSM had just received a memo that morning on the MEL-CNS flight that they were allowed to close the curtain. The direction before that was it was to remain open.

 

[ejb_nz]

Reports indicated said curtain needs to remain open on Domestic 737 flights only.

Either this 1) has indeed changed recently, or 2) the MEL-CNS CSM was dealing with the issue their own way.

I flew MEL-SYD Monday night on a 738 in row 3 and the curtain was closed and the CSM annouced that the toilets for pax in the main cabin were at the rear and the toilets at the front were for J pax only.

The curtain remained closed whilst at cruise altitude.

ejb