Qantas, You're My Hero! (New NT Services)

Discussion in 'Qantas Frequent Flyer Program' started by justinbrett, Jul 25, 2007.

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  1. justinbrett

    justinbrett Active Member

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    #1 justinbrett, Jul 25, 2007
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    Firstly - the reason I'm happy - is we finally have a year-round daytime service to Sydney. Not daily (yet) but I believe it will be, given the chance (go ahead and give the red-eye to JQ, nobody wants it). Down grade the 767 to a 737 (or A320), and given many presently transit BNE, should be able to sustain 2x737s a day.

    Although I find it funny that to combat Tiger flying MEL - DRW, Qantas will combat with increasing SYD - DRW flights. What the? Anyway, I'm not complaining. (easy enough to connect to MEL via SYD or ADL).

    The loss of the DRW-CNS route on a 737 is a little sad, but if it's replaced by a direct 717 service (not via Gove) then I can live with it. At the end of the day, more DRW - CNS flghts means more options for connections (especially to BNE, given the amount of CNS - BNE flights). It would be great to have a late afternoon flight out of DRW - say 1600ish.

    Don't really care about the ASP services - never understood why we had 737 services (to DRW) to start with (other than transits from MEL, where the ACFT comes from.) I heard it never did really well.

    The past few weeks aparently every single seat has been sold out of darwin, sometimes for a period of up to 5 days ahead (ie - you can't get out of Darwin for five days at a given time). I had a friend who's grandmother died, and the family had to delay the funeral so he could fly down.

    So probably not a bad time to push for more services. And QF services at that (unlike usual, where JQ claim new services, which are just taken from QF).

    So I guess this will leave us with:

    BNE: DAILY QF, 6xWEEKLY JQ
    ADL: DAILY QF, 5xWEEKLY JQ
    MEL: DAILY JQ (wonder if they'll pull out this wet season like they did last year?)
    PER: DAILY QF, DAILY QFlink via ASP
    SYD: 1-2x DAILY QF (how long till JQ takes one of them, as per BNE,MEL and ADL?)
    CNS: I think - 1xDAILY QFlink via GOV, 1-2xDAILY QFlink direct
    ASP: I think - 1-2xDAILY QFlink (some continuing to PER)
    GOV: I assume - DAILY QFlink (continuing to CNS)

    Perhaps one of the 717 services to CNS could continue to TSV?

    We're losing BOM next year (very sad, only real QF flight). Still have DPS every other day, and JQ to SIN.

    I wish QF would restart the DRW-SIN route. Do it in a 737, I don't care. Just get rid of JQ! It's almost worth flying the 4 hours south to SYD just to fly back over Darwin to get a real QF flight.
     

  2. stuartfaz

    stuartfaz Active Member

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    I believe that this is a permanent daily service now that Tiger's started up.
     
  3. Platy

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    As a Cairns resident I am not so impressed. Here are the five losses to CNS:

    1. Not long ago we lost the International CNS-DRW-SIN 2 class service by 767 to a one class Jetstar (Asia painted out) Deathstar mini-Scarebus (A320) so lost the decent J class service to both DRW and SIN.

    2. because of (1) we also lost seat capacity on the route equivalent to one international 767 because the Deathstar aircraft does NOT run domestic passengers between CNS and DRW since it is a foreign registered aircraft.

    2. And now we are to lose the daily direct 2 class 737 service and thus we have lost the remaining J from the route entirely.

    3. Y service in the 717 is also inferior (no in cabin entertainment).

    4. Also the 717 holds less passengers (115 vs 168 on 737-800) so a few extra fligths per week with 717 and replacing the 738 with 717 doesn't not add significant capacity (4 seats less or 12 per day more depending wet/dry season) let alone make up for the previously lost capacity (250 seats per day).

    Whereas I am glad that the NT is being taken more seriously overall in terms of seat numbers I am very annoyed at the total loss of J on the CNS-DRW route and can't see any increased capacity benefit. And this during the northern mining boom with the cash flying around.

    The analysis shows why you shouldn't get conned by the QF propaganda machine...
     
  4. lilon

    lilon Newbie

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    As an ex-resident of Alice Springs I strongly disagree with the title of the thread. Qantas is only too happy to milk the poor locals whenever it is the only carrier and only reduces prices when competition arrives. We used to pay up to $700 economy return Alice-Sydney until Virgin Blue arrived. Then it was good ol' Qantas when the competition was on until Virgin cut their flights to Sydney in 2005. Now it is the same story again: Long live Qantas until Tiger are gone.
     
  5. straitman

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    Whilst I understand your thoughts, you also need to remember that's how the capitalistic world works.
     
  6. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    Jetstar are due to return the flight back to Jetstar Australia from 1 Feb 2008. Perhaps the Jetstar Asia arrangement didn't work!

    http://www.jetstar.com/pdf/news/20070802a.pdf

    That will mean that CNS-DRW will be possible. No J class of course...
     
  7. browski

    browski Established Member

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    Are you saying that the flight to BOM will now be non-stop from SYD?
     
  8. oz_mark

    oz_mark Enthusiast

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    Yes, when QF take delivery of a new A332, it will have the range to do this without the need for a stop in DRW.
     
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