Qantas world's most punctual airline in June

[Quickstatus]

Surely the starting point for schedule is

For the external party to define it's data sources

 

[SYD]

What the Australian article doesn’t mention is QF was top of “Major” airlines but only 23rd within ALL airlines. The Australian Aviation article posted up thread correctly differentiated the categories from the source.

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A couple of curious observations in the sample size eg Garuda at #1 but only ~6k flights.

Also, the LCCs who’s key metric is on time departure are languishing at the bottom of the tables.

 

[Quickstatus]

Someone can explain to me why cancellations is not a factor in OTP

 

[Melburnian1]

What data is the external party examining g?

It's measuring what time a p[lane lands at an airport, and falsely trying to compare this against the timetable that specifies an arrival time at a gate of an airport.

So the data and media release generated is misleading, since you or I cannot alight on a runway.

Someone can explain to me why cancellations is not a factor in OTP

Because whatever the mode of public transport, cancellations and punctuality are always separately measured.

 

[Quickstatus]

cancellations and punctuality are always separately measured.

If I'm waiting for the 08:34 bus and the next one is 09:02 and then the 08:34 is cancelled, I'm still going to be late

 

[transpactraveller]

Because whatever the mode of public transport, cancellations and punctuality are always separately measured.

This is not true for Sydney. The NSW Audit Office includes cancelled services (and those that skip a scheduled stop) in the punctuality metric. Any service that fails to arrive within 5 minutes of its scheduled time is reported as non-punctual.

 

[Rembrandt]

Wow don't go telling the hoards of Aussies that unfairly label Qantas the worst airline in the world...

 

[Quickstatus]

Including delays and cancellations into the OTP calculation would put QF OTP to be 87.16-1.59 = 85.57% Putting it in 3rd place (assuming the rest of the data is correct)

Still, pretty good.

 

[Quickstatus]

unfairly label Qantas the worst airline in the world...

I think people malign the airline for other (often justifiable) reasons, not just OTP.

 

[Capricornus]

It's measuring what time a p[lane lands at an airport, and falsely trying to compare this against the timetable that specifies an arrival time at a gate of an airport.

So the data and media release generated is misleading, since you or I cannot alight on a runway.


Because whatever the mode of public transport, cancellations and punctuality are always separately measured.

Are you sure about that? I suggest don’t grab the first AI slop that call themselves media, but can’t even see the difference between landing and arrival. Go to the actual source which clearly states they use the industry-wide accepted measure of OTP, ie arrival at the gate:

What is OTP​

On-time performance (OTP) data is critical to understanding the performance of airlines and airports.

Across the aviation industry, an airline departure or arrival occurring within 15 minutes of the scheduled time is considered on-time.

Airline on-time performance is based on actual gate arrival times. Flights that arrive within 15 minutes of the schedule are considered on-time. Arriving 15 minutes or more after the scheduled time is considered not on time.

 

[Melburnian1]

Are you sure about that? I suggest don’t grab the first AI slop that call themselves media, but can’t even see the difference between landing and arrival. Go to the actual source which clearly states they use the industry-wide accepted measure of OTP, ie arrival at the gate:

I didn't use 'AI slop'.

This is what 'The Australian' reported - unlike you, I subscribe to it.

Qantas rated world’s most on-time airline in its best performance since 2017​

Robyn IronsideAviation Writer

Global travel data provider OAG compiled the data. A flight was considered to be “on-time” if it landed within 15 minutes of schedule.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I didn't use 'AI slop'.

This is what 'The Australian' reported - unlike you, I subscribe to it.

Qantas rated world’s most on-time airline in its best performance since 2017​

Robyn IronsideAviation Writer

Global travel data provider OAG compiled the data. A flight was considered to be “on-time” if it landed within 15 minutes of schedule.

I think Capricornus was referring to the AI slop in the Australian, not that you had used AI

It’s not the best reporting if the measure is actually ‘at the gate’ rather than ‘landing’.

I find I have to double check many stated ‘facts’ in the media these days by going back to source. even so called reputable media.

 

[dajop]

Global travel data provider OAG compiled the data. A flight was considered to be “on-time” if it landed within 15 minutes of schedule.

That then is poor reporting (or poor editing) by the Australian, as arriving (at the gate ) is the definition OAG uses.

 

[SYD]

I find I have to double check many stated ‘facts’ in the media these days by going back to source. even so called reputable media.

That’s why I posted the source above. The Oz article doesn’t differentiate that QF was top for “Major” airlines (which is good) but only 23rd across ALL airlines. So the Oz headline is inaccurate.