Qantas removes Lounge Access for QP members on EK flights from Oct 1

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I remember being at the EK T3 LHR lounge when a QP member tried to access on QF flight. They asked if he was Chairmans Lounge? Has there been unpublished benefits here for WP/CL?

A QP member never at access at LHR to the EK lounge on a QF flight

EDITED: Apologies just realised your post had nothing to do with QP membership.

To answer your question WP/P1 do not have access to the EK lounge unless in F. I'm pretty sure that QF will have reciprocal arrangements for CL and i/O which will grant access to CL at LHR
 
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And to add insult to injury, the QC does not open in Melbourne for the 3.30am flight to Paris via Dubai with Emirates. So, even though my booking had a QF code, because I wasn't flying Business Class I could not enter the Emirates Club that was open for the flight. The Emirates gentleman on duty at the Emirates Lounge was lovely and ended up changing my seating so that I could have a middle row of 4 seats to sleep in on the way to KL. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that if a booking is with a OneWorld airline, then all conditions of any Lounge membership should apply in all the OneWorld lounges?
 
And to add insult to injury, the QC does not open in Melbourne for the 3.30am flight to Paris via Dubai with Emirates. So, even though my booking had a QF code, because I wasn't flying Business Class I could not enter the Emirates Club that was open for the flight. The Emirates gentleman on duty at the Emirates Lounge was lovely and ended up changing my seating so that I could have a middle row of 4 seats to sleep in on the way to KL. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that if a booking is with a OneWorld airline, then all conditions of any Lounge membership should apply in all the OneWorld lounges?

Firstly, Emirates isn't part of oneworld.

Secondly, Qantas Club membership, like Admirals Club membership, is very separate to any oneworld benefits.

Unfortunately, lounge access is very confusing.
 
And to add insult to injury, the QC does not open in Melbourne for the 3.30am flight to Paris via Dubai with Emirates. So, even though my booking had a QF code, because I wasn't flying Business Class I could not enter the Emirates Club that was open for the flight. The Emirates gentleman on duty at the Emirates Lounge was lovely and ended up changing my seating so that I could have a middle row of 4 seats to sleep in on the way to KL. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that if a booking is with a OneWorld airline, then all conditions of any Lounge membership should apply in all the OneWorld lounges?

EK isn't oneworld.
 
All this is still confusing. Doesn't worry me as I fly Bus Class overseas but feel for Adelaide flyers booking on Emirates and thinking they will get lounge access in DBX on their Q cards. Still no respite from QF for Adel flyers since they dumped international flights 6 years ago.
 
The lengths that many travellers go to in order to gain an advantage forces changes such as the restrictions on lounge access that Qantas has introduced. Quite often the things that are done to gain such advantages are way outside the spirit of the QF membership so ultimately Qantas has to act to prevent what often amounts to abuses of the program. I get annoyed by people pushing the limits which results in changes that end up disadvantaging those who do not abuse the system. I frankly have little interest in the relentless pursuit of "freebies" - I am happy to enjoy the privileges I get without scheming to squeeze even more out of the program. I also don't have the time, nor is my life that sad that I feel compelled to do so.
 
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NO LOUNGE ACCESS!
 
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Love Qantas
Flying CGK HKG SHA HKG DPS
Qantas flight number
Qantas ticket
CX aircraft
Qantas Club member
NO LOUNGE ACCESS!

Given that Qantas doesn't codeshare with CX, I doubt you have a Qantas flight number on a Cathay Pacific aircraft.

Perhaps a CX flight number on a CX aircraft, or a QF flight number on a JQ aircraft?
 
In December last year, we booked honeymoon flights to Europe for October this year (ie. days after the new restriction will be introduced), but were advised that we couldn't book QF because of booking and stop-over restrictions. So got changed to EK, but figured that my Qantas Club membership would get me in anyway. Recently renewed my membership before this was announced, and will likely requalify as Gold (currently Silver) within the next month. Bit annoying really....
 
Will that include in Dubai? Onward flight is EK code....

Yes it will. Note there is currently what I and several others believe to be incorrect information on the Qantas website.
Red Roo has confirmed that the team has been alerted and is reviewing it.
 
Yes it will. Note there is currently what I and several others believe to be incorrect information on the Qantas website.
Red Roo has confirmed that the team has been alerted and is reviewing it.

Thanks kindly to you both. I've just spotted the relevant discussion posts.
 
The lengths that many travellers go to in order to gain an advantage forces changes such as the restrictions on lounge access that Qantas has introduced. Quite often the things that are done to gain such advantages are way outside the spirit of the QF membership so ultimately Qantas has to act to prevent what often amounts to abuses of the program. I get annoyed by people pushing the limits which results in changes that end up disadvantaging those who do not abuse the system. I frankly have little interest in the relentless pursuit of "freebies" - I am happy to enjoy the privileges I get without scheming to squeeze even more out of the program. I also don't have the time, nor is my life that sad that I feel compelled to do so.

"Spirit of the QF membership". Interesting notion.

I only see a commercial agreement between QF and it's customers. Sure, QF like to play on the "Spirit of Australia", the patriotic line of "we're disadvantaged compared to those nasty Johnny Foreigners, please sign our FB page so we can act like the nasty Johnny Foreigner" etc etc, but at the end of the day, QF mostly engage on commercial activity.

QF also set the rules for that commercial engagement between itself and its customers. If people gain advantage through activities which are outside of the commercial agreement (gain benefits to which they are not entitled) then I expect those individuals to be brought to redress by QF.

If, however, QF - through lack of diligence - create a situation whereby Customers legitimately gain a benefit which QF did not budget for, then why do you blame the Customer for that? QF can, and do, shift the commercial agreement back to favor themselves. Such is the world of commerce.

I think where everyone starts to get a little heated is where they perceive they've already paid for a service which is later withdrawn - that "payment" can be through hard-cash, per the QC Memberships - of through status given the revenue previously expended, and against which you'd expect QF to maintain a liability until cleared. At this point it's up to the individual customer to decide whether QF is taking the p155 or whether they can see the commercial justification of QF to withdraw.

Where things get really disappointing from a personal perspective is when a certain CEO makes blithe promises which are then broken within a matter of months: the service matching and promise that the higher of the EK/QF prevailing where different is a classic. Never does that same CEO front up and say "actually, sorry, we got that wrong and commercially its not as viable as we thought it would be". Instead QF just (usually) withdraw them quietly without so much as an update, just altering the T&Cs.

Regards,

BD
 
Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Bummer for anyone silly enough to be QP member and Middle East based. My recent travel DXB to KBL, MCT, and future DME and ISB on EK - can't book QF fares from DXB to any of them at any price. Booking to Europe the only option is LHR on QF metal. As far as QF marketing themselves goes, they appear to be burning themselves everywhere...

Cheers skip

PS Not sure what happened with the post title...
 
Yes. I have noticed that it happens with Fiji Air at the Brisbane Qantas Club. A 30 year membership meant zilch on the 23/7. A huge disappointment as we have always been allowed in :(
 
What, no announcement that EK tie up is not as good now as it looked then. :D

Worth noting EK have already done this without telling anybody. I tried to get into the EK Melbourne lounge last week when on QF9 and the boarding pass would not scan, and so I was kicked out; so I expect EK started this round of lock out. In the QF lounge they were calling the EK flight, so they must have been allowed in. It does make sense to stop people like me lounge shopping. EK want EK passengers or codeshares on EK metal in their lounges. I noted the EK Dusseldorf lounge was fanastic with first class lounge food with only five people in it. I was in there by virtue of my QF codeshare ticket, but noted they were struggling for business at the pointy end of the plane where is was not.
 
Nobody seems to have considered the alternate point of view here and are making out that this is all the creation and fault of QANTAS.

What if this change is largely out of the control of QANTAS?
What if Emirates have forced it upon QANTAS?
What if Emirates have seen a flood of economy ticket holders without any QANTAS or Emirates status come barging into their lounges, eat all their free food, drink all their free booze, then board a flight? Are non Status Emirates economy passengers allowed to do this?

Perhaps Emirates have said that ALL non status passengers are to be treated equally, which would be in terms of the agreement, and that this therefore means that ALL non status economy passengers are denied access to their lounges.

I'm loyal to QANTAS, and happy to say so.
 
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