Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[kamchatsky]

If they gave us some decent options I might but doubt I’ll fly QF to places that are already served by others and who have done the right thing by us

How about a QF A321XLR to SIN, and then connect to other QF flights to LHR? Would that suffice?

 

[jase05]

How about a QF A321XLR to SIN, and then connect to other QF flights to LHR? Would that suffice?

That personally has no interest but perhaps it does for some. If I’m going to do a 1 stop trip to London we do have several better quality airlines at our disposal.
I’d probably only fly QF out of ADL if it was direct to somewhere currently not served like BKK for example

 

[Doctore1003]

So the back rows of economy on the A350 ULR are going to have *reduced* seat pitch (32)

That’s so they can set up some economy plus rows up the front with 34 inch pitch without reducing the total number of seats

Imagine how pissed you’d be spending 22 hours and paying a premium for that.

 

[lovestotravel]

20 hours in 32 inches - LOL

 

[Quickstatus]

I reckon the Arctic route SYD-LHR could see a double sunset and a double sunrise before landing depending on the time of the year.

first sunset soon after departure from SYD, first sunrise up in the north pacific around japan latitude, then sunset again when its north of Alaska and the sunrise into LHR.

 

[jase05]

20 hours in 32 inches - LOL

Hell on Earth

 

[dajop]

I reckon the Arctic route SYD-LHR could see a double sunset and a double sunrise before landing depending on the time of the year.

first sunset soon after departure from SYD, first sunrise up in the north pacific around japan latitude, then sunset again when its north of Alaska and the sunrise into LHR.

Probably only rarely, , as it seems (and has been mentioned) most likely to do this route during the northern winter . At the end of Feb London sunrise is at 6:50am.

 

[Melburnian1]

QFi is not my preferred carrier - I like WY from and to MNL - but a proposed 0800 hours departure from LHR at least allows passengers to arrive at the airport on the Elizabeth line as the latter's first train arrives Heathrow at about 0500 hours.

However 0800 is too early to allow passengers travelling by train from say Birmingham, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester or Sheffield to connect, and ditto for the minority who fly within the UK.

An 0500 arrival ex SYD in LHR may be OK for businessmen wanting an early start for the day but is a horrible time if you're a leisure traveller as most hotels don't allow check-in until 1500 or so (granted, one can be lucky with a sympathetic desk clerk on the odd occasion if a room was unoccupied the previous night). The thought of arriving in central London by say 0645 on a February morning doesn't excite.

In an ideal world if the slot was available, a 1200 'high noon' departure from LHR would be better but could mean lower aircraft utilisation. QFi might also be worried about the prospect of late running from Heathrow meaning the aircraft fails to 'make' curfew in Sydney the next night.

 

[Scarlett]

Hell on Earth

I’m sorry, your spelling of “Red e-deal” appears incorrect…

 

[Quickstatus]

0800 is too early to allow passengers travelling

From London.

0800 departure meaning arriving at LHR maybe 0500
then leaving London hotel maybe 0400 am to Elizabeth line then to checkin
That means maybe getting up at 0300am.

I suppose 0800GMt = 1800hrs AEST.
So really we should not sleep the last night in London

 

[justinbrett]

20 hours in 32 inches - LOL

It’s 32-34 according to what I read (only 30% will have 32).

Even still, is 21 hours in 32 any worse than 9 + 14 hours in same?

 

[opusman]

But what is not true is that there is an equal amount of interest and international traffic headed to MEL as a gateway to Australia as there is into SYD. SYD continues to dominate this metric with more than half of all overseas visitor arrivals to the country starting out there.

If there are more flights into Sydney it seems logical you'll get more visitor arrivals into Sydney. Chicken and egg innit.

 

[AuSammy]

If there are more flights into Sydney it seems logical you'll get more visitor arrivals into Sydney. Chicken and egg innit.

Our o/s friends (north america and UK) when coming to AU all had similar expectations that visiting absolutely must include the Opera House, the coat hanger, the great barrier reef and holding a drop bear. Even though they were coming to stay with us (then living in Melbourne), they flew to Sydney first to tick off the first two must dos and then travelled to Melbourne.

[edit: interestingly all four groups travelled here on QF (safest airline in the world and very attractive fares when booked from overseas)]

 

[Quickstatus]

How about a QF A321XLR to SIN, and then connect to other QF flights to LHR? Would that suffice?

Maybe other airlines provide a better product?

And Adelaidians should buy more international QF flights from ADL too.

Examples?

 

[SYD]

Our o/s friends (north america and UK) when coming to AU all had similar expectations that visiting absolutely must include the Opera House, the coat hanger, the great barrier reef and holding a drop bear. Even though they were coming to stay with us (then living in Melbourne), they flew to Sydney first to tick off the first two must dos and then travelled to Melbourne.

[edit: interestingly all four groups travelled here on QF (safest airline in the world and very attractive fares when booked from overseas)]

I often advise Nth Am friends to look at open jaw fares eg into BNE and out of MEL (or VV) so they can do QLD, then down to SYD and then MEL but invariably they book US-SYD (return) even though it’s not cheaper when you add internal flights….

 

[Quickstatus]

absolutely must include the Opera House, the coat hanger, the great barrier reef and holding a drop bear

Unfortunately tourism can be very superficial

(safest airline in the world and very attractive fares when booked from overseas)]

Or maybe a novelty - say double decker airplane?.
Suggest safest airline reason is far down the list of priorities - I doubt the Us traveller has never been into that, it's all about the price , cheaper prices are laways a higher priority.

 

[Quickstatus]

Even still, is 21 hours in 32 any worse than 9 + 14 hours in same?

I wonder if any influencer will TOFFT and review a PS in Y?.

 

[kamchatsky]

Maybe other airlines provide a better product?

Maybe better product, but there are plenty of people here with OW Golden Handcuffs …..

 

[SYD]

Maybe better product, but there are plenty of people here with OW Golden Handcuffs …..

Emerald handcuffs!

 

[Rich]

Examples?

Is an example of something only slightly more ridiculous than what I was replying to.