QANTAS is to close its Sydney maintenance base, shedding 480

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  1. needaholiday

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    Press release to the ASX from Qantas quoting Geoff Dixon

    Qantas Airways said today it would close its B747 heavy maintenance operations in Sydney by May as part of a major review of all its aircraft engineering operations.

    Heavy maintenance for 747's will be transferred to Avalon

    Heavy maintenence for 767's will continue in BNE.

    A review over the next six monthsof the airlines narrow body aircraft heavy maintenance currently carried out at Tullarmarine
     

  2. oz_mark

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  3. oz_mark

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    According to a report from The Australian, the jobs are going to Avalon


    See: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18400577%255E1702,00.html

     
  4. bigjobs

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    this seems to be somewhere between no change at all and sending the maintenance jobs off shore ...

    reckon there will be industrial action? i think there will be ...
     
  5. NM

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    I really don't see how the unions can complain about this one. The announced 747 heavy maintenance is staying in Australia, and this will result in expenading the already existing Avalon 747 maintenance base.

    This seems like a very logical decision to me. Unfortunate for those who will lose jobs, but that's life. It happens in all industries.
     
  6. Sheriff

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    A very arrogant and unsymapathetic remark considering many people who will lose their jobs probably have a big mortgage to pay and children to feed, that's life.

    Sheriff
     
  7. Dave Noble

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    Why is it arrogant and unsympathetic. NM is quite correct; jobs moving is a fact of life; e.g. call centres moving overseas where they are cheaper to operate

    Companies work, as legally required, for the best interests of their shareholders; that is a fact of life

    It is unfortunate for those that end up unemployed, but the company is operating as it should; in these days, it is, imo, important to have insurance against losing jobs.

    Dave
     
  8. oz_mark

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    Given the stated need to restructure seems like a better option than just sending it offshore.
     
  9. oz_mark

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    Qantas believes Games strike averted

    From ninemsn

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=90539


     
  10. NM

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    I fail to see how my comment was "very arrogant and unsympathetic". I think it was pragmatic and realistic. As I said, it is unfortunate for those that will love their jobs. And I really would not like to see the alternate option of operating inefficiently and having the situation where even more people lose their jobs because the airline goes the same was as another famous Aussie icon airline.
     
  11. aus_flyer

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    I agree with NM entirely.

    (I do, however, believe that if jobs were to move offshore, then the government should not protect Qantas on the Aus-US route)
     
  12. oz_mark

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    This is exactly in line with my thinking. Had they gone the offshore route, then the protection on that route should have come straight off.
     
  13. needaholiday

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    Out of interest, where do DJ service their 737NG fleet, isn't it NZ? (heavy maintenance)
     
  14. NM

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    Melbourne and Brisbane for line maintenance, Air NZ for heavy maintenance.
     
  15. shillard

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    1. They chose to take on the big mortgage.

    2. They (like all workers) had the facility of income insurance available.

    3. They will likely get buku redundancy payouts and/ or the opportunity to relocate to the new facility.

    4. It is neither arrogant nor unsympathetic - it is an objective observation.

    5. It IS life - companies change, jobs move, jobs cease to exist. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Remember, the medication only works if you take it EVERY day....
     
  16. one9

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    Think where we would all be if the likes of Sheriff had got Mark Latham elected last elections.
     
  17. QF WP

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    Knowing NM as well as I do, I know that his comment was as he stated "pragmatic and realistic". Others similarly found his comment in the same vein.

    You found it an "very arrogant and unsymapathetic remark" Sheriff. That's your perogative and you're entitled to it.

    Nonetheless, the facts (accord to QF's Geoff Dixon) is that the facility was bound to close in 2009, 2010 at the latest. So the workers who aren't able to be redeployed will be offered redundancies...that's fair. QF pays out a lot of money now in the hope that their calculations are correct that they will save alot of money in the long term...

    Redundancy payments are also very tax effective, being that of the amount they receive, $6,491 plus $3,246 for each completed year of service (2005/06 FY rules) is tax free. Generally, the formula agreed to by the unions and QF (or in their EPA's or CAs) for the quantum of the redundancy payments for workers will be something like 4 week's pay plus 2 weeks for every completed year of service.
     
  18. NM

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    A couple more media reports on this topic:

    Qantas job losses regrettable: PM
    MacBank shops workers

     
  19. bambbbam2

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    Yes it is a sad fact about the jobs. Think of all those out-of-work blacksmiths after the horeseless carriage was invented!

    But it has been an accepted economic fact since Adam Smith that 'money will flow to where it gets the best return'

    There is a lesson in this for all of us - make sure you look after your own career, skills and education - because no-one else will. :)
     
  20. Sheriff

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    NM,
    I apoligise if my post has offended you, that was not my intention. I am entitled to express my views regarding your comments, whether you agree with them or not. From reading many of your posts (haven’t got enough time to read all of them), you sound like a morally responsible individual. So I would have thought you would have expressed your sadness and disappointment at the prospect of many hard working Australian maintenance workers losing their jobs. Many of whom have worked tirelessly for Qantas for many years maintaining aircrafts to ensure safety requirements are meet so Qantas’s excellent safety record is maintained. The fact is that many of theses maintenance workers are on the minimum award wage, have families with children to support that heavily depend on the income derived from this employment to pay for mortgages and other family commitments. Many of these retrenched workers will find it difficult to find another job, many will not even find another job, and many will receive small redundancy packages not even worth mentioning, that’s life. I sincerely thought your comment was inappropriate and harsh considering the circumstances these Australians are now faced with, even if it is the reality.

    Regards
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