Qantas / Emirates tie up (Partnership inc. Codeshare, Status)

[RooFlyer]

Classic. I just received that email but as a Skywards member where I have no status (but am flying J class with Emirates in July). Nothing from Qantas yet, where I'm silver and nothing from Qantas to husband who is gold.

Put me down for QF e-mail (WP) received 2 1/2 hrs ahead of Skywards one (no status, no activity).

Obviously the send out on both would be staggered to not overload servers, with the priority ..... well who knows?

 

[Pushka]

I'm not sure if you're talking about a paid flight or an award, but if paid then I suggest you check the EK website price before deciding to book the QF code share. When I looked yesterday for J prices on this route in late August, the EK website price was $2K less than QF for the exact same flights.

I noticed a difference of $10,000 for Bus class fares.

 

[simongr]

Have seen EK metal (both QF codeshare and EK) appearing on AnySeat searches, but not on Classic.

Are those ex-Dubai fares? I havevnt been able to choose Dubai as a start point for classic awards.

 

[moa999]

Are those ex-Dubai fares? I haven't been able to choose Dubai as a start point for classic awards.

No ex-SYD. Was looking at SYD-ZRH in Aug - just in Y, so includes flights from DXB
I get QF/BA options on Classic, but QF/EK options under AnySeat.

 

[MarcB]

Can anyone suggest a reason for a differential on the QF website when booking return flights ex-FRA as follows:

Route: FRA-BNE (1 Apr)

Option A:

EK46 FRA DXB
QF8432 DXB BNE

= 405 EURO

or

Option B:

QF8046 FRA DXB
QF8432 DXB BNE

= 517 EURO

Why is there a difference? These are the same flights just one happens to have an EK code on one of the sectors. It's the same on the return too. 369 EUR versus 481 EUR. Is this something to do with the taxes thay apply to passengers based on distance? It's happening across all classes.

 

[blackcat20]

Can anyone suggest a reason for a differential on the QF website when booking return flights ex-FRA as follows:

Route: FRA-BNE (1 Apr)

Option A:

EK46 FRA DXB
QF8432 DXB BNE

= 405 EURO

or

Option B:

QF8046 FRA DXB
QF8432 DXB BNE

= 517 EURO

Why is there a difference? These are the same flights just one happens to have an EK code on one of the sectors. It's the same on the return too. 369 EUR versus 481 EUR. Is this something to do with the taxes thay apply to passengers based on distance? It's happening across all classes.

Same for flights I looked at from FCO. $1800 with EK flight number, $2900 with QF flight number...

 

[moa999]

Could be different fare class availability - common across most codeshare arrangements.
QF may have already sold out of the cheapest class, or EK may not make the cheapest class available.

Could be that things aren't still loaded properly

 

[Spizz]

Have seen EK metal (both QF codeshare and EK) appearing on AnySeat searches, but not on Classic.

They were on Classic searches but have all dissapeared over the past 48 hours. Waiting for them to come back.

 

[oz_mark]

Could be that they haven't completed their price alignment discussions. They could well be setting the prices separately.

 

[vbap]

Why is there a difference? These are the same flights just one happens to have an EK code on one of the sectors. It's the same on the return too. 369 EUR versus 481 EUR. Is this something to do with the taxes thay apply to passengers based on distance? It's happening across all classes.

I noticed same. I guess that's the price for earning SC on the QF flight number.

 

[Flashback]

I noticed same. I guess that's the price for earning SC on the QF flight number.

Just like the packages on JQ

 

[drron]

Put me down for QF e-mail (WP) received 2 1/2 hrs ahead of Skywards one (no status, no activity).

Obviously the send out on both would be staggered to not overload servers, with the priority ..... well who knows?

Obviously wasn't done by status.
As a QPNB i got my QF email yesterday well before mrsdrron who is WP.

 

[MarcB]

I noticed same. I guess that's the price for earning SC on the QF flight number.

Yeah - maybe. It's just weird that it's only one flight number in the routing is EK whereas the other is still a codeshare...it's only where they are both codeshare's it's coming out higher. Admittedly, the fare classes are different. In the case of the all QF numbers both are 'O' and the EK option is 'V' for the EK flight and 'O' for the QF.

 

[Pleb Status]

Checking a flight PER-LHR rtn in J for Sep 2013.

On exactly the same days and flights, the cheapest currently available fares are -

QF - AUD8688, no refund at anytime, AUD300 change fee (QF codeshares of EK flights).
EK - AUD7108, AUD300 refund before departure, AUD225 change fee.

I doubt if the QF FFP and SC are worth AUD1580 and worse refund/change conditions.

What was the advantage to the customer of this alliance exactly?

 

[Spizz]

I doubt if the QF FFP and SC are worth AUD1580 and worse refund/change conditions.

What was the advantage to the customer of this alliance exactly?

Only reassuring thing I can say is their still (hopefully) tweaking the figures for the upcoming launch??

 

[drross]

Put me down for QF e-mail (WP) received 2 1/2 hrs ahead of Skywards one (no status, no activity).

Obviously the send out on both would be staggered to not overload servers, with the priority ..... well who knows?

Exactly the same here.

 

[oz_mark]

Only reassuring thing I can say is their still (hopefully) tweaking the figures for the upcoming launch??

They only got approved to talk to each other about pricing coordination recently. I'd be expecting some movement, but who moves which way remains to be seen.

 

[anat0l]

Anyone possibly suspecting that there's a marked difference between the QF plated and EK plated fare because QF are charging YQ on top of the EK fare (which has no YQ component)?

Of course, if this was the case and it can be exposed as such, then that would be patently and disgustingly dishonest... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[oz_mark]

Anyone possibly suspecting that there's a marked difference between the QF plated and EK plated fare because QF are charging YQ on top of the EK fare (which has no YQ component)?

Of course, if this was the case and it can be exposed as such, then not only is it patently and disgustingly dishonest, but QF would then be up for a court case which could easily wipe the floor of the airline... with a dead and bloodied kangaroo or two to boot... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Err, why would there be a court case?

 

[anat0l]

Err, why would there be a court case?

IIRC TAs are paid a commission on base fare only? Unless the recent court case that was decided on a year or so ago fixed that.

I've amended my original post the remove the reference, but in any case I maintain that (if this were the case) it would be patently dishonest. It's one thing to have your own fare with a high YQ in it; it's another thing to take a codeshare fare with no YQ in it, then add your own premium on top and call it YQ. Call it "legal theft" if you will; like white collar crime.

If this dishonest reason is true, I will have absolutely no hesitation ripping into Qantas about it.


If it's just a fare premium on top of EK's fare which is partially or fully integrated into base fare, or a combined organisation of the fare inventory with QF assuming higher fare classes compared to EK, then it's unfortunate, but it's far better than being dishonest.