Qantas could give its passengers the runs, or worse still, food poisoning

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Passengers of flight QF436 were given a hot beef, cream and horseradish sandwich for their lunchtime meal today, only to be told 20 minutes into eating the sandwich that they were out of date – expired by a week, in fact.

Too little, too late. By then ofcourse most passengers had already devoured their sandwich and were washing them down with their coke zero and water. As for me, I was savoring the fact that Qantas had given us a pretty decent meal and was up to my final bite as the flight attendant walked up the aisle to inform passengers of the very unfortunate news.

"I just want to let you know that the sandwiches you are eating are actually out of date. I'm sorry and I just wanted to let you know," she said.

Gee, thanks for letting us know although giving us this information after the fact that we’ve all just eaten it, is a little too late. Perhaps if your crew of 15 were actually doing your jobs in the first place and checked that the sandwiches were safe to feed your paying customers, you might have received a more welcome response.

I look at the pack - expired 27/6/11. Today is the 3rd July. These sandwiches have been sitting god knows where, for a week, stewing in bad bacteria, and then served to all of us today and who knows how many other unsuspecting passengers.

Some minutes later, the pilot's voice comes on the loudspeaker: "This is your captain speaking. It has just been brought to my attention, and as you already know, that the meal served today is out of date. I am happy to let you know that when we land and you present your boarding pass at any food outlet, you will get $15 off your meal. I'm sorry this has happened. That's the best I can do," he said.

That's the best you can do? Really, Qantas? If I were you I would try slightly harder than that. You could potentially have a severe media and legal issue ahead of you, possibly within the next 48 hours depending on the how quickly the effects of food poisoning takes to surface, literally. Perhaps encouraging your passengers to stuff their face with 15 dollars worth of fried, fast food might not be such a good idea. And perhaps a sincere apology, rather than a half-hearted condescending sorry (followed by "that's the best I can do") might be a good start. After all, some of the unlucky ones might be spending their night tonight with their heads in the toilet bowl, and certainly without a good story to tell that precedes it.

It seriously concerns me that this has happened. On a full flight of men, women, and children of all ages, safety needs to be the number one priority. For an airline that prides itself on having the highest safety record in the world, I would’ve expected this to be a no brainer.
By that, I don't mean only getting us safely from A to B (good luck, Tiger Airways), but actually doing your jobs completely to ensure that passengers have a safe and comfortable flying experience, which includes feeding us food that is cleared to eat. Is that really too much to ask?
 
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Given that this is a catering error, I don't know that the crew on-board could have done much more. The error was made on the ground. I doubt the flight crew really ever inspect the food that closely. And guess what, the label was there for everyone, including you, to read as well.

Your best course of action would be to take up the matter with Customer Care at Qantas. Clearly there is an issue, within catering, that needs to be resolved. As for where they would have been - most likely in a freezer somewhere.

When travelling, you also need to take your own precautions. And if the label was so clear, how come you hadn't read it?
 
The Captain has apologized, given you a $15 voucher. Crew will no doubt check the food given to them by the caterers more diligently. What else did you want them to do?
 
The Captain has apologized, given you a $15 voucher. Crew will no doubt check the food given to them by the caterers more diligently. What else did you want them to do?

Not make the mistake in the first place? Food safety is not an issue to be messing around with, take a look at the E-Coli outbreak in Europe.

I just wonder how many flights this had to happen to before someone realised.
 
Why is it I feel sceptical when a first time poster comes up with issues such as this?
If in fact the food was past use by date then it is a food safety issue.
One would hope the crew reported it, to help prevent it occurring again.
I imagine the sanwiches would have been refrigerated so one hopes people wont suffer adverse reactions.
In any case the poster should/could report it to Qantas Customer Care.
 
I do think that this is an issue from several levels.

First of all, where were the checks from catering on the ground to ensure that the food was in date? Could it have been an error in labeling (it is a possibility)?
Second of all is there enough time between getting the food on the plane, cabin crew entering and preparing to check that the food is ok to go? Is it easy to check for the date on the food, or would it be too time consuming? By the way that you stating the events, it seems that the majority of passengers missed the fact that the food was out of date, so the sticker may not be in a great place.

It may not be in the procedures of the Cabin Crew to check the stickers, as this may take place before the food is loading, and as such there is not that much that the crew can do if it has not gone detected. You stated that you received an apology and $15 for food, in perspective that is a lot more than what Tiger customers have received.

In regards to the media, they will not be interested in this one. A) Because of the Tiger fiasco currently, and B) They hardly touched Virgin's Listeria issues even though they were repeated over a period of time. Yes QF could be responsible for cost's if there were to be bad cases of food poisoning, but in this case it still is a what if as there is the issue of proving the source of food poisoning (I am not an expert on the use by date vs expiry date etc).

I do believe that contacting QF about this would be the best way to address this. It brings it to their attention, and it allows them to (if they choose to) review their processes to ensure that this does not happen again. I think a call would be better, as my experience (with the Hilton) is that email allows you to be passed off with a I am sorry but it could not have been our food we are the greatest template reply.

Finally, it would be interesting to hear from one of the QF cabin crew we have on here to see if there are any processes/checks to make sure that the food is checked before service, or if time does not allow this.
 
If they feel that strongly about it, they should report it the health department.

I know in WA, the health department provides a list of the worst offenders once a year. Funny how the worst offenders still manage to operate though.
 
From my experience use by date can be pointless. I've had milk well within the use by date, purchased and open directly by me that has been totally off as soon as poured.

Was it use by or best before date, as well. Big difference, with the later not being an expiry date. It is just not best, does not mean you can't eat it.

Finally, the ecoli thing in Europe is not necessarily related to food handling and storage. Ecoli can get on the food when it is grown and can even be grown into the plant tissue.
 
From my experience use by date can be pointless. I've had milk well within the use by date, purchased and open directly by me that has been totally off as soon as poured.

Use by dates make some assumptions about the way food is stored - and in many cases freezing things makes the use by date pointless.

Milk is a case in point. Keep it refrigerated it will often last well past the use by date. Have it stand in a crate outside a deli for a few hours after delivery and you have just shortened its life.
 
The OP stated it was a hot sandwich and probably didn't have a use-by date on it when served to passengers. Fingers crossed that like most hot food on aircraft it was over-heated and hopefully roasted any nasties growing in it.
I doubt the open disclosure and offer of compensation will prevent the most litigious passengers from seeking further damages.
The catering company procedures should be thoroughly investigated as this type of breach could have awful consequences for frail/ elderly/ pregnant passengers
 
Milk is a case in point. Keep it refrigerated it will often last well past the use by date. Have it stand in a crate outside a deli for a few hours after delivery and you have just shortened its life.

Totally agree meat/chicken is a prime example of freezing extending life.

Perhaps I should have mentioned it was long life milk in my case. Purchased direct from supermarket, 15 minute walk to work, straight into fridge. Opened an hour later and it was off, sick making off not just slightly on the turn. Well inside use by date.
 
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Brings to mind a flight I had from PQQ-SYD on QF in April. It was a turnaround flight & when the crew went to serve the front passengers it was discovered that the trolley carried nothing! As with the Op's experience I think it shows there are not a lot of checks happening.
 
I say sue their @rses off!

Lets all be "Mericun" for a moment and see what "I" can get out off this.

Ofcourse we could all be "Orstayun" for just a moment, take a collective deep breath and say "So what?"

Anon (what a lovely name!). Get a life! Get over it! Are you dead yet? I'll take a no response as a "Yes".

JB
 
Seriously?!
So cabin crew duties now include catering and checking expiry or best before dates on food products?!
 
Well Heston Blumenthal has given patrons of his Fat Duck 3 Michelin starred restaurant food poisoning.Yet his restaurant has been in the top 5 in the world for the last 6 years.
As they say-cough happens.
No one in his position or QFs deliberately gives people food poisoning.
 
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