Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

[Gold Member]

It would be nice to be greeted by any other colour but orange when entering one of the Clubs !

cheers,
Dee.

The orange cancer has many forms :-|

 

[nlagalle]

There is no commercial airline in the world that could introduce a dress code (above the very basic standards which are now enforced) and stay in business. I would personally not fly on any airline which had an 'enforced' dress code in any class (including F) and I have never purchased a pair of thongs or a singlet in my entire life. If I do not like the brand of suit you are wearing, can I tell you go away until you get something better?

The question I have is why do people care what others are wearing? The QP is just another public area (with an entry fee). It is nothing more than that.

I don't think it's an enforced dress code, just some basic principles to adhere to. Would you go to a restaurant in thongs and a singlet?

Personally I think singlets have no place in the lounge. Are our dress standards slipped that much?

 

[NSWP]

The Maitre D' and Head Waiters on the cruise ships enforce their dress codes, so why not Qantas Club Lounge Duty Manager?

Just my two cents worth. No I don't visit airport lounges, nor am I in Qantas Club. Only been in the Qantas Club Lounge at Sydney AP a couple of times and that was as a guest of the Qantas Duty Manager when I was working out of the airport.

 

[russellferrier]

As you can see from my avatar, I am FIFO though it is offshore oil and gas and almost none of us wear flouro to/from work, mostly because it would be too dirty(ingrained oil and grease stains) or torn with buttons missing etc.
Not a single vessel, barge or platform that I have ever worked on or heard of will let you into the galley (dining room) wearing a singlet or sleevless shirt purely on health issues.
Every now and then someone "tries it on" to show off their latest tattoo and they last one or two minutes before being told to leave by the chef or camp boss.
Thongs or open toed shoes are now being targeted due to the perceived risk of injury and socks are also becoming mandatory, again on health issues.

 

[DC3]

... Personally I think singlets have no place in the lounge. Are our dress standards slipped that much?

Agree with that. Aren't singlets technically "underwear", and not meant to be worn as an outer garment?

Maybe my views are out of date.

 

[davidj]

My feedback on this issue.

I just came back from the Hilton Bangkok, and upon check-in was told flip flops were not smart casual, therefore I was not permitted entry to the exec lounge or restaurants during the evening. Now I suit up 240+ days of the year, so when I'm on vacation I decide to casual up and enjoy the culture and climate. Now when I say casual, I mean t-shirt, shorts, and thongs (not havaianas but more like sandals with the wide cloth band). So when I'm paying top dollar, and am told this, it leaves a sour taste. I went for it anyway, but ditched the shorts for trousers for a more smart casual look, no issues in the lounge, didn't bother visiting the restaurants.

As long as you don't look, *SMELL* and *ACT* bogan, I think its fine. Take a shower, clean yourself up, hair ect, and you can pull off thongs and t-shirt

 

[serfty]

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As long as you don't look, *SMELL* and *ACT* bogan, I think its fine. Take a shower, clean yourself up, hair ect, and you can pull off thongs and t-shirt

This is where it's at - the world most perfect gentleman/lady can dress how they like since they don't impose their presence on your "Quiet Enjoyment".

To "swill this, swill that, <expletive> this, <expletive> that, etc." in an environment where such action (bogan if you must), even if wearing a three piece suit, causes distress/discomfort to others is not on and is at the heart of the problem.

Sadly, hi vis in lounges in PER have garnered a poor reputation due to one or a dozen spoiling it for hundreds of others.

There is a reason why there are reports of QF employing security guards in their PER QP's.

 

[maninblack]

Agree with that. Aren't singlets technically "underwear", and not meant to be worn as an outer garment?

Maybe my views are out of date.

Should the same rules apply to women?

 

[footy99]

Have we got general agreement in this thread that it is far more about attitude than attire? There really doesn't seem to be much disagreement there.

I've always gone the t shirt, shorts and thongs. There has never once been a bad sentiment about it, anything said, or any hint that it wasn't accepted. In fact, as numerous others have noted, it is basically the norm in most first class lounges these days.

Singlet and stubbies is probably another level, but again it has much more to do with the attitude and hygiene of the person than the attire. You would only notice it if they stunk or were being particularly rude. With women, shorter shorts or singlets obviously wouldn't be questioned. The only conceivable issues lie with the observer, and I'm quite certain will only ever be triggered when other factors simultaneously don't meet their satisfaction.

 

[Rebekkap]

Should the same rules apply to women?

As long as the blokes agree to wear a dress on formal occasions, yes.

 

[Jmrocky]

Not a single vessel, barge or platform that I have ever worked on or heard of will let you into the galley (dining room) wearing a singlet or sleevless shirt purely on health issues.
Every now and then someone "tries it on" to show off their latest tattoo and they last one or two minutes before being told to leave by the chef or camp boss.
Thongs or open toed shoes are now being targeted due to the perceived risk of injury and socks are also becoming mandatory, again on health issues.

I work in the Bowen Basin, most camp's dining halls will not allow work boots, thongs, barefoot etc. Closed in shoes only. Good luck with a singlet as well. This is mainly done for cleanliness (dirt and coal dust on floors is hard to clean) and hygiene.

However this is a different environment to an airport lounge. I agree it's far more to do with attitude than clothing, most of the guys I work with who FIFO come straight to site and it's a hassle to change. I actively try to change because I would rather travel comfortably than in uniform but thats my personal preference. If I wear high vis in the lounge I don't think I'm actively interfering or insulting anyone but thats just me. I'm not insulted by cheap suits even though they look ridiculous and many people wear them but it's not my clothing so it's not my concern.

 

[Quickstatus]

At least Qf has a subsidiary known as Jetstar/onestar/nostar/deathstar where dress bogans and attitude bogans can hangout, and do.
Should we also ban braided hair with beads and trousers worn around ankles? Or flanellette shirts.

What would Qantas do if a famous touring rap group books out the entire first class on an A380 to come to Oz to do a show and arrive in Flounge with Rap clothes around their knees?

I have come to learn never judge a person by their dress. Who knows, that person you see in thongs, king gees, white singlet and an open flanellette shirt asking for a VB in QP or flounge could be a QFF WP1 or CL?.

One of the endearing traits about being aussie is that egalitarianistic, antiestablishment, even boganish attitude. Lets not forget who we are.

see: Jetstar | Things Bogans Like

 

[blackcat20]

Should the same rules apply to women?

Depends on whether you're talking singlets as in underwear, or tank tops. I have some quite nice ones that I wear with a dressy skirt and have never been looked down on as "under-dressed".

 

[Buzzard]

Lets face it, we are all different with varying values. What may offend one will not offend another.
As long as we all dress and behave in what is generally a socially accepted manner, that is all that should be required.
Our personal views should not come into the equation.

 

[mannej]

Lets face it, we are all different with varying values. What may offend one will not offend another.
As long as we all dress and behave in what is generally a socially accepted manner, that is all that should be required.
Our personal views should not come into the equation.

That's the issue - what is the definition of socially acceptable regarding what one wears? That is the issue isn't it?

 

[11sjw]

That's the issue - what is the definition of socially acceptable regarding what one wears? That is the issue isn't it?

The issue was the that the QP states that "Smart Casual" is the required dress standard and that "Stubbies, Singlet and thongs" has never constituted "Smart Casual" anywhere else. I guess the fact that the gent in question in my original post had his builder's qualification showing (top of his butt crack for those that don't get the reference) probably added to the "What the?" factor.

 

[mannej]

The issue was the that the QP states that "Smart Casual" is the required dress standard and that "Stubbies, Singlet and thongs" has never constituted "Smart Casual" anywhere else. I guess the fact that the gent in question in my original post had his builder's qualification showing (top of his butt crack for those that don't get the reference) probably added to the "What the?" factor.

The issue is as per what I stated is that not everyone agrees on what smart casual is.

No arguments about builders crack not being acceptable.

 

[under the radar]

im willing to bet that the same people who disapprove of male 'crack'...would be the same people who find female 'cleavage' more acceptable!!!.... just my thought for the day

 

[11sjw]

The issue is as per what I stated is that not everyone agrees on what smart casual is.

No arguments about builders crack not being acceptable.

As the author of post #1 in this behemoth I thought I defined the issue.

 

[Quickstatus]

im willing to bet that the same people who disapprove of male 'crack'...would be the same people who find female 'cleavage' more acceptable!!!.... just my thought for the day

Im sure female FF will also appreciate muscle guys with white T/singlet and blue jeans too in QP

see also: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....news/dress-standards-planes-glad-i-31001.html