QANTAS checking carry on at LAX

[RooFlyer]

Maybe they need to reduce the allowance? Because I suspect that if everyone brought the allowance on board it wouldn't all fit. It's getting close to that now. I think that's why there is a bit of customer angst about boarding early. I know it's an issue with my partner who travels for work.

Maybe a better scheme is to buy an increased onboard allowance. Reduce it overall to a briefcase and one additional small item. If you didn't purchase the extra then in the hold it goes. No discussion.

Which 'allowance' are you talking about there? Weight per item? Number of items? Total weight of items? Size of individual item? Size of all items combined?

As a regular Nth American traveler, I'm horrified at the amount of stuff people try to bring as carry-on. Everyone knows its because of the charges levied on checked luggage now. I do board earlier than I ideally want to because of the issue of overhead bin space. Mine ALWAYS goes into the bin above (or closely adjacent).

But if I take one 'standard' roll-aboard, I'll be damned if some-one decides that if its 10kg its in the cargo hold, but if its 7 then you can take it on board.

Especially J, and especially International, which is what I'm mainly talking about. Its an allowable sized bag. It fits. I'll lift it if needs be.

 

[Ansett]

Which 'allowance' are you talking about there? Weight per item? Number of items? Total weight of items? Size of individual item? Size of all items combined?

As a regular Nth American traveler, I'm horrified at the amount of stuff people try to bring as carry-on. Everyone knows its because of the charges levied on checked luggage now. I do board earlier than I ideally want to because of the issue of overhead bin space. Mine ALWAYS goes into the bin above (or closely adjacent).

But if I take one 'standard' roll-aboard, I'll be damned if some-one decides that if its 10kg its in the cargo hold, but if its 7 then you can take it on board.

Especially J, and especially International, which is what I'm mainly talking about. Its an allowable sized bag. It fits. I'll lift it if needs be.

Hi Roo Flyer the issue is about the number and size of bags from my perspective however the other issue that needs to be considered is what is the weight limitation of the bins? Having seen people strugglle to lift bags into the bin I wonder if people deliberatley overloaded the bags and subsequently the bins, and as a result the bin failed and caused serious injury to a passenger or passengers who would be responsible in your opinion? The Airline? The passenger and or Passengers?

Im sorry and do not mean to be offensive but limits are there for a reason and IMHO failure to work with in those rules is both selfish and irresponsible.

 

[jpk]

Hi Roo Flyer the issue is about the number and size of bags from my perspective however the other issue that needs to be considered is what is the weight limitation of the bins? Having seen people strugglle to lift bags into the bin I wonder if people deliberatley overloaded the bags and subsequently the bins, and as a result the bin failed and caused serious injury to a passenger or passengers who would be responsible in your opinion? The Airline? The passenger and or Passengers?

Im sorry and do not mean to be offensive but limits are there for a reason and IMHO failure to work with in those rules is both selfish and irresponsible.

The QF limits are ridiculous when compared to other airlines. Size is the problem because it never all fits. In terms of weight - if BA, who are very safety conscious, allow 23kg then I am sure the bins can take it. There is a label inside each bin section advising what it can take, I remember it being substantially higher than what QF was allowing.

At the very least, QF should be matching JQ in offering 10kg.

QF: 7kg
JQ: 10kg
BA: 23kg https://www.britishairways.com/en-au/information/baggage-essentials/hand-baggage-allowances
EasyJet: no limit Cabin baggage | easyJet

 

[drewbles]

The QF limits are ridiculous when compared to other airlines. Size is the problem because it never all fits. In terms of weight - if BA, who are very safety conscious, allow 23kg then I am sure the bins can take it. There is a label inside each bin section advising what it can take, I remember it being substantially higher than what QF was allowing.

At the very least, QF should be matching JQ in offering 10kg.

QF: 7kg
JQ: 10kg
BA: 23kg https://www.britishairways.com/en-au/information/baggage-essentials/hand-baggage-allowances
EasyJet: no limit Cabin baggage | easyJet

From memory, last time I saw such a label it was around 30kg for the locker, which is substantially more than one bag. Say it's 3 at 7kg, that's 21kg. Add in laptop bags and jackets, and you'll be at the 30kg no problems.

From memory, the reason it's set at 7-10kg is not for the crew and their backs, it's to limit damage if they fall out. I've been on various flights where a particularly heavy landing in a 763 has resulted in overheads popping open. Fortunately, nothing has fallen out, but the heavier the item falling, the more the damage.

I think 10kg is fine myself. I don't want to cart around more than that for an extended period.

 

[tuapekastar]

7kg is seemingly quite a low limit, but it well-publicised and well-known, so no excuses. I've been guilty of 8 point something kilos occasionally, but with contingency (pull coat or heavy pullover out of carry-on and wear it). I've never really been a big fan of the HL weighers you see at some airports but if you are over you are over and that is that. I detest the huge multiple carry-ons.

There was a story related on FT ages ago about a guy who hopped on a plane in the US (where else? ) and found an 'item' in his footspace. Upon checking he found 'items' in about 8 or 9 neighbouring paxes feetspaces. Turns out they all belonged to a guy sitting 3 or 4 rows in front who did not want them occupying his footspace. Some people.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

It's amusing to watch the 'carry on' (20 kilo suitcases) confiscated at the gates at some US Airports & sent down the chute to checked underneath.

You don't see many US flights depart that don't have even legitimate carryon size bags taken at the aircraft door & loaded underneath in the hold at the last minute - not because they're necessarily oversized, but because all the overhead binds are full to capacity.

 

[lovestotravel]

I have no problem with them weighing carry-on bags, but they should weigh passengers at the same time

Not fair that I might get penalised for being 1kg overweight yet I am 30kgs lighter than the guy sitting next to me.....

 

[RooFlyer]

Hi Roo Flyer the issue is about the number and size of bags from my perspective however the other issue that needs to be considered is what is the weight limitation of the bins? Having seen people strugglle to lift bags into the bin I wonder if people deliberatley overloaded the bags and subsequently the bins, and as a result the bin failed and caused serious injury to a passenger or passengers who would be responsible in your opinion? The Airline? The passenger and or Passengers?

Im sorry and do not mean to be offensive but limits are there for a reason and IMHO failure to work with in those rules is both selfish and irresponsible.

Never offensive . Concede that there must be some limit to weight of each item and to the capacity of the bins, but 7kg is silly, especially as there is always the ability to put any carry-on under the seat in front, not the overhead locker.

I'm a pretty strict rule-observer on airlines, but with this one they've lost me.

 

[HKGNZL]

I have no problem with them weighing carry-on bags, but they should weigh passengers at the same time

Not fair that I might get penalised for being 1kg overweight yet I am 30kgs lighter than the guy sitting next to me.....

I agree the fare should reflect total weight (pax + bags) but there should still be a limit of the carry on weight though.

I have seen it many times (and have been the victim once) when people struggled to lift very heavy bag onto bin and the bag fell onto the aisle pax.

 

[maninblack]

The airlines, not just QF are totally inconsistent in enforcement, so people will try to get away with whatever they can. It gets worse on an overcrowded narrow body as every pushes and shoves their luggage into full overheads. It would help up in J if the airlines did not store their equipment in already inadequate overhead space. There are some big allowance differences too.
LY is rather generous for example in business class.
You are entitled to two pieces of hand luggage weighing
a total of 20 kg (44 pounds) – one piece of hand luggage
weighing up to 16 kg (35 pounds) and another weighing up to 4 kg for a portable computer or attaché case

 

[ozbeachbabe]

I have seen it many times (and have been the victim once) when people struggled to lift very heavy bag onto bin and the bag fell onto the aisle pax.

Even US carriers state in their pre-departure spiel "if you cannot lift an item into an overhead bin it is not carry on & must be checked."

Surprisingly BA allow 23 kg of carry on as long as you can lift it into the overhead locker.

I've seen a fellow pax in an aisle seat hit on the head by a piece of carry on that fell out of the locker arrival. She subsequently collapsed in the aerobridge after she stepped off the aircraft.

 

[maninblack]

Imagine getting hit by one of these stupid things! 5kgs empty.

 

[drewbles]

It's amusing to watch the 'carry on' (20 kilo suitcases) confiscated at the gates at some US Airports & sent down the chute to checked underneath.

You don't see many US flights depart that don't have even legitimate carryon size bags taken at the aircraft door & loaded underneath in the hold at the last minute - not because they're necessarily oversized, but because all the overhead binds are full to capacity.

Actually, a lot choose to do this on purpose now. With checked bag fees pretty much everywhere, they'll take it through and when the inevitable 'We have a full flight and invite those who wish to gate check their bag' announcement is made, they happily surrender them. Typically they come out before regular checked bags too, so they just win.

Of course the flip to this would be enforce the rules and charge double when gate checking or offload them. Win for the airline, and a win for those trying to so blatantly avoid fees (And hold up the entire boarding process with their monstrosity when they get it on board after no announcement to gate check is made, then have to get the bag up to the front of the plane to gate check it anyway).

 

[burrco]

Imagine getting hit by one of these stupid things! 5kgs empty.

Hey I own one of those . Only ever used as checked luggage though.

 

[jpk]

From memory, last time I saw such a label it was around 30kg for the locker, which is substantially more than one bag. Say it's 3 at 7kg, that's 21kg. Add in laptop bags and jackets, and you'll be at the 30kg no problems.

Datapoint: today on a 738 the locker sticker said 72kg. Locker covers 2 rows.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi Roo Flyer the issue is about the number and size of bags from my perspective however the other issue that needs to be considered is what is the weight limitation of the bins? Having seen people strugglle to lift bags into the bin I wonder if people deliberatley overloaded the bags and subsequently the bins, and as a result the bin failed and caused serious injury to a passenger or passengers who would be responsible in your opinion? The Airline? The passenger and or Passengers?

given the BA allowance is 23kg per bag and easy jet has no limit - the overhead bins are designed to safely carry that much.

In 1000+ flights just over the last 10 years (including a landing so hard two ceiling panels fell into the aisle) I have never seen a case of bag injury. I've seen a hat slide off, and once a scarf. But never an item of baggage. There are raised edges on the bins to hold the bags in for exactly this type of scenario.

(but that being said if it happens to me I'll be the first to complain )

 

[serfty]

It was only a year or three ago that BA had no specific weight limit for carry on - the passenger simply needed to be able to put it into the OHSB unassisted.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Do the carry-on baggage check stands include scales to weigh the bag as well as the physical dimensions? I'm certain I've seen some that did.

 

[Reggie]

Flying ezejet on Sunday, no limit to weight in carryon, but strict limit on number and size. So we will be forcing as much into carryon as possible. If bag size is not within guidelines, bag will be gate checked at 300% premium to having prepurchased checked in baggage.

There is also a guaranteed to fly in cabin size, then slightly larger size that if no sufficient room in cabin will be gate checked at no cost,

 

[Vim Fuego]

Flying ezejet on Sunday, no limit to weight in carryon, but strict limit on number and size. So we will be forcing as much into carryon as possible. If bag size is not within guidelines, bag will be gate checked at 300% premium to having prepurchased checked in baggage.

There is also a guaranteed to fly in cabin size, then slightly larger size that if no sufficient room in cabin will be gate checked at no cost,

flew easyjet Gatwick to Rome two months ago, they seemed to be more strict on carry on in Rome on the return flight. If it didn't fit in the frames they use to check it wasn't going anywhere other than as checked in luggage