Qantas Business Class meals & menus

[Aeryn]

Offering a meat-free dish is not forcing vegetarianism.

It is if there is no other option available. And soup is a starter not a main.

I never mentioned 100% meat diet - that ridiculous assertion was invented by you. Of course i eat fruit and veg and some grains but they are an accompaniment and do not make a complete satisfying meall imo.

My point iwas it is very easy to get a guranteed vegetarian or vegan meal by placing a special order but there isnt that facility available to ensure you get the hot animal protein option. Therefore there needs to be sufficient animal protein meals loaded for evey J pax who hasnt ordered a special meal.

 

[Captain Halliday]

I’d ask someone to pass the popcorn, but that might give the impression I’m taking sides.

 

[FlyingKangaroo]

Just imagine if a system existed through which one could pre-order from a menu.

 

[hutch]

Of course it is! And “if a vegan option is so important to you, maybe you should plan ahead…” and simply pre-order a special veggie meal. Which one cannot do with the “beef meal”.

So in my mind, as long as that greens with greens dish is available as a special meal option, there is no need at all to offer a veggie based option on the regular menu, let alone having this as the only option in an from row 2 which is just ludicrous. Unless this is all nothing but a hidden cost saving exercise, of course… ;-)

I eat meat. I wouldn't think it's acceptable to require me to pre-order a meat dish.

I don't think being vegetarian is so unusual or special, that it requires someone to pre-order that meal.

Having a vegetarian option on a menu is completely fine.

If Qantas is not loading enough meat dishes to cater to those who wish to eat meat, then that is a different problem.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Just imagine if a system existed through which one could pre-order from a menu.

Domestic business a lot of people will book or move flights inside the cut-off for the pre-ordering of special meals.

Everyone can eat vegetarian. And loading more meat meals… not everyone likes the same meat. I could load 6 pork and have 2 people tell me they can’t eat pork.

At least with vegetarian every one can eat it?

 

[Mr_Orange]

if a vegan option is so important to you, maybe you should plan ahead…

I never said that I am vegan or vegetarian. As it happens, I am neither but nor do I feel the need to eat meat for every meal.

 

[anat0l]

At least with vegetarian every one can eat it?

Unless it contains pumpkin or coriander. Then you're going to be criticised as if you just offended someone's religion.

 

[vhojm]

QF156 ALL-MEL VH-XZD 25/4

Same menu that I posted in early April which incidentally is the November 2025 menu. Beef was actually very tasty.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Domestic business a lot of people will book or move flights inside the cut-off for the pre-ordering of special meals.

Everyone can eat vegetarian. And loading more meat meals… not everyone likes the same meat. I could load 6 pork and have 2 people tell me they can’t eat pork.

At least with vegetarian every one can eat it?

I’m not sure that’s correct.

There may be specific vegetables or ingredients to which a passenger may be allergic.

if the threshold you’re applying is “can eat”, that would apply equally to meat.

Excluding a small number of pax with allergies of any kind, the vast majority of pax can eat either meat or vegetarian dishes.

Whether QF provides sufficient catering to meet the preferences of all passengers is a different matter.

 

[Aeryn]

Intolerance for corriander is real, its genetic and why its polarising as those frrom ethnicities with low prevelance of that gene put it in everything guaranteeing that meal is inedible for those with the gene because it tastes like you put detergent in the dish.

Including animal protein (eggs or meat or fish or poultry) at all 3 meals is healthy and not unusual.

The number of business flyers changing flight times is quite small, as usually there arent available J seats so it means a downgrade to whY.

This edge case shouldnt prevent the reintroduction of the abilty to pre order meals (which would also speed up service as less discussion needed with each passenger) nor is it an excuse to under cater meat options favouring the cheaper veggie ones.

 

[anat0l]

I agree with pre-order would be great. Even if it is just pre-order of the meal choices for that flight.

I don't see why QF can't do it for international routes; I mean, they did it before. I'd like to talk to any QF insider who maybe can comment on the Select on Q initiative and whether it was a huge headache or what not.

Of course, IMO QF made a huge mistake by selling off their catering division. Now they have a lot less control over how catering works and thus how tightly they can offer services like specific dish pre-ordering, let alone giving customers the menu in advance, the latter being a service offered by a good number of airlines around the world.

People changing last minute should know the risks. No airline can realistically guarantee that someone being upgraded (prior or last minute) or bumped out or making a last minute change or booking hours before departure will retain all customisations, amongst those meal preferences. If it happens, then great, but it can't be guaranteed.

 

[anat0l]

Intolerance for corriander is real, its genetic and why its polarising as those frrom ethnicities with low prevelance of that gene put it in everything guaranteeing that meal is inedible for those with the gene because it tastes like you put detergent in the dish.

It's not say an intolerance. Yes, those with the gene thinks that coriander tastes like detergent or soap. Now unless you somehow like the taste of soap (perhaps someone who swore too much when they were younger), your senses are going to tell you not to eat it. But if you happen to consume it, you won't be physiologically in danger, unlike someone with an allergy.

No one can force someone to eat coriander if they don't want to, but to carry on like the world is trying to kill them is a bit much.

 

[markis10]

don't see why QF can't do it for international routes; I mean, they did it before. I'd like to talk to any QF insider who maybe can comment on the Select on Q initiative and whether it was a huge headache or what not.

QF cannot do it because they sold their catering division and no longer have control.

 

[anat0l]

QF cannot do it because they sold their catering division and no longer have control.

Does that mean for QF to offer such a feature they would have to re-establish their own catering division?

Great... this means never....

 

[hutch]

Does that mean for QF to offer such a feature they would have to re-establish their own catering division?

Great... this means never....

No expert... but isn't SQ's book the cook available on non Singaporen departures? I assume this catering would be outsourced.

 

[FlyingKangaroo]

Lots of airlines offer pre-ordering without owning their catering divisions. So whatever the issue is, it’s not that.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Lots of airlines offer pre-ordering without owning their catering divisions. So whatever the issue is, it’s not that.

I suspect it’s cost. It must be cheaper to order the exact same thing every week, and produce the exact same thing every week, than have it varied on a daily basis.

 

[markis10]

No expert... but isn't SQ's book the cook available on non Singaporen departures? I assume this catering would be outsourced.

SQ don’t have their own catering division, instead they outsource to GateGourmet worldwide which is 50% owned by Temasek which is of course one of the owners of SQ. Last time I checked QF are at the mercy of GateGourmet (SQ) and Dnata (EK), I am sure they could organise something to the benefit of those two companies profits.

 

[hutch]

SQ don’t have their own catering division, instead they outsource to GateGourmet worldwide which is 50% owned by Temasek which is of course one of the owners of SQ. Last time I checked QF are at the mercy of GateGourmet (SQ) and Dnata (EK), I am sure they could organise something to the benefit of those two companies profits.

I'm 100% confident that SQ used Dnata out of Melbourne, at least they did a couple years back (and I believe BTC was available back then)... and a quick search then seems to indicate Dnata is doing SQ out of Sydney...

 

[anat0l]

I suspect it’s cost. It must be cheaper to order the exact same thing every week, and produce the exact same thing every week, than have it varied on a daily basis.

SQ don’t have their own catering division, instead they outsource to GateGourmet worldwide which is 50% owned by Temasek which is of course one of the owners of SQ. Last time I checked QF are at the mercy of GateGourmet (SQ) and Dnata (EK), I am sure they could organise something to the benefit of those two companies profits.

I'm sure the cost would be rather prohibitive for QF to convince them.

If I had the means to improve my enemy, I certainly wouldn't be open to it unless it was for an exhorbitance.

Once again, QF really did themselves when they sold off the catering division. It's amazing that any food of some quality actually makes it onto the flights.