Putting kids in their place or plane stupid

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  1. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    A story from the Daily Telegraph on Friday 15/9/2006. Could not find online link so I have posted the story here.

     

  2. simongr

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    What a ridiculous approach. yes some kids can be annoying on a plane but not all kids. I would dread to think that as a oneworld emerald (hopefully next year) if I travelled with kids (when I have them) that all my privelleges would be chucked out the window because someone else's kid makes trouble?

    Yes I know this is Virgin and not oneworld but I would hope this wouldnt be taken up by QF!

    Creating a family ghetto at the back of the plane wont help some kid who cant equalise the pressure in their ears - similarly it just takes more people to actually complain when being kicked in the back (not that I do) rather than taking it.
     
  3. dajop

    dajop Senior Member

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    Defacto happens on QF on the busy flights, anyway how many families and children do you see up the front on the typical peak hour flight on the golden triangle? And on DJ happens by default, as they try to put purchasers of higher fares (which I suspect would not generally be a family of 5 or 6) up the front in the "suit zone").

    As for unaccompanied minors - on the few occassions I've sat near them I usually find they behave OK, I guess they're not vying for the attention of their parent(s)!
     
  4. NM

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    No, the separation of small children not apartheid, its apart-height :shock: (with apologies to The Goodies :D )
     
  5. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    apart-height seemed to work well for the majority of goodies :)

    Dave
     
  6. NM

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    all except Bill Oddie. Was not the best experience for him :evil: .
     
  7. Dave Noble

    Dave Noble Senior Member

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    I did say "majority" and it was good for over 66% of Goodies :)

    Dave
     
  8. Hi there

    It's Virgin Blue's airplane, they can sit whoever anywhere they wish.

    Cheers
    DJ737

    PS : Although i did get allocated 24ABC (737-700) on the SYD-DRW inaugural, the other 141 seats on the aircraft were occupied:mrgreen:
     
  9. pacblue

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    "....It's Virgin Blue's airplane, they can sit whoever anywhere they wish".

    God, talk about twisted english. I almost reached for a Swahili phrase book to work this out.

    Translation : They can seat anyone, wherever they wish.
     
  10. serfty

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    Of course they can ...

    We as Customers (or is that Guests?) can choose to use DJ facilities or not ... as we wish ...
     
  11. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    I think this is a quite sensible approach, especially for looking after unaccompanied minors.

    As a parent, when I fly with the kids (which is not a lot) I actually ask to be seated at the back of the plane. The back row is great because there is no-one behind who can get annoyed if the kids peer over the seat.
     
  12. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    I believe both Qantas and Virgin Blue seat unaccompanied minors in the last row/s. Much easier for them to look after the children.
     
  13. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

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    On the surface it is but I for one dont like to have those decisions made for me. Also - why discriminate against people with kids, what about fat people, recliners (especially those who are less than 6' tall), frequent pee-ers.... By quaratining the problem is almost like syaing - what goes on in the kid zone is ok - irrespective of the fact that even up in 26A (dont I wish I got that seat) I can still hear a kid screaming in 55K.... People should just take responsibility for their kids (and FYI I am not saying you dont take responsibility - obviously choosing seats like that indicate that you are concious of other passengers - just like someone who is 6'2" who doesnt jab his knees into the back of someone in front of him).
     
  14. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

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    So your avatar is really a movie from your last family flight? :D (What airline has seats like that?)
     
  15. garyjohn951

    garyjohn951 Active Member

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    At least there is one good thing being male in this 21st Century, you don't get any unaccompanied kids next to you anymore !!
     
  16. one9

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    In my opinion, this is more discriminatory than the seating children at the back policy.
     
  17. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    I think the airlines are just trying to make it as comfortable as possible for the majority of pax. People parent their kids differently and kids are individuals so you just can't guarantee that anything a kid does on board won't upset someone.

    As a parent, I do my best to be conscious of everyone else when on board with my kids, and probably am more strict than others may be. Unfortunately, some pax simply have no tolerance for any kid who makes a bit of noise or bumps their seat.

    When I see someone struggling with their kid(s) on a plane I feel sorry for them and if I can, I offer some help or even just a reassuring word. You can bet that most parents would rather be sitting there with a drink in hand listening to soothing music rather than trying to contain a child in a confined space, and are generally feeling a lot more on edge than anyone else around them.

    Exactly! The airline that had seating like this was OzJet. :)
     
  18. jakeseven7

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    This reminds me of a flight drama my sister had. She was on a window and a very large (obese) person was seated next to her, then another normal size person on the aisle. Now this person in the middle apparantly was 'spilling' over into both seats either side and made the flight very uncomfortable for the pax on either side. The girl on the aisle apparantly had a quiet word to the csm but the flight was full, so moving was out of the question. The girl met up with my sister after they got off and they were both pretty unhappy that the person had been allowed to travel in just one seat, they both went to the airline's service desk and lodged a complaint (and got some travel vouchers which was good I suppose).

    Is there a policy about obese people?
     
  19. Mal

    Mal Enthusiast

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    As I've posted here before... not always!

    A flight CNS-BNE with Qantas a couple of years ago (pre NB days!) saw me seated in the last row of the plane. Next to me were two brats.

    Another JAL flight had me sitting next to another child.

    Anyways, as I said previously:

    "Try sitting next to two "brats" instead. :roll:

    I posted about that QF experience (Jan 2004 I think) previously.

    Jal put me next to an unaccompanied minor late last year (child was in A seat, I was in C).

    I'm more than happy to be segregated from unaccompanied children. I think tho that the airlines have it wrong. The children should be seperated from all adults, not just males..."
     
  20. bravoecho1

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    The biggest issue that I have is not kids travelling by themselves, but parents with infants who decide to use the tray table as a changing table :evil:.

    This has happened to me on both QF and DJ flights. Both times they have been approached by the flight crew and both times they have ignored them and then proceeded to carry a dirty nappy to the toilets once they are finished.

    Not very pleasant at all!!
     
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