Project Sunrise: A350 or 777X?

[defurax]

Interesting that they don't seem to have any of the particularly photogenic crew from the promotions team there.

This time they are assessing the impact of ultra long haul flight on normal looking people. They already have the data on good looking people.

 

[Himeno]

This time they are assessing the impact of ultra long haul flight on normal looking people. They already have the data on good looking people.

So does that mean they'll all be sitting in the Y and W seats for the entire flight this time, instead of the J seats?

 

[esseeeayeenn]

So does that mean they'll all be sitting in the Y and W seats for the entire flight this time, instead of the J seats?

Don't be silly.

 

[OATEK]

Interesting that they don't seem to have any of the particularly photogenic crew from the promotions team there.

Two female flight crew.

 

[jase05]

Another article

Qantas' plans for pilots on the world's longest flights revealed

Qantas Airways plans to have more experienced pilots on board the world's longest non-stop flights than on its current long-haul flights for the first 18 months as it evaluates fatigue, said sources with knowledge of the matter.

www.traveller.com.au

 

[jb747]

Two FOs is a virtually useless crewing structure. It offers no positive over 1C, 1F and 2S crews.

 

[docjames]

Two FOs is a virtually useless crewing structure. It offers no positive over 1C, 1F and 2S crews.

It’s useful to the marketing department.

 

[Quickstatus]

Two FOs is a virtually useless crewing structure. It offers no positive over 1C, 1F and 2S crews.

Could you pls elaborate?

 

[jakeseven7]

Looks like the pilots are onboard:


Qantas has broken a deadlock on marathon wage negotiations with its domestic pilots, clearing the way for negotiators to hammer out a deal with international pilots which is holding up its ultra-long haul "Project Sunrise" ambitions.

The airline is confident its largest pilot group will back the new pay deal reached on Friday after more than a year-and-a-half of negotiations.

Qantas pilot deal smooths runway for Project Sunrise

Qantas inked a wage deal with its domestic pilots, clearing the way for a new agreement with international pilots and its ultra-long haul "Project Sunrise".

www.smh.com.au

 

[SeatBackForward]

Everyone knows the only way to make such a long flight more comfortable is simply giving everyone more room in their seats. Just make the flights premium seating only, charge more, and be done with this whole "scientific analysis" charade.

And why is it a charade? if they genuinely wanted to test the effects upon passengers, why didn't they experiment with a full load in Y?

 

[eastwest101]

Looks like the pilots are onboard:


Qantas has broken a deadlock on marathon wage negotiations with its domestic pilots, clearing the way for negotiators to hammer out a deal with international pilots which is holding up its ultra-long haul "Project Sunrise" ambitions.

The airline is confident its largest pilot group will back the new pay deal reached on Friday after more than a year-and-a-half of negotiations.

Qantas pilot deal smooths runway for Project Sunrise

Qantas inked a wage deal with its domestic pilots, clearing the way for a new agreement with international pilots and its ultra-long haul "Project Sunrise".

www.smh.com.au

Just because the short haul/domestic EBA negotiations are going well, does not necessarily mean that the long haul EBA negotiations will be successful.

 

[RooFlyer]

FWIW with respect to Sunrise, B777X has flown for the first time:

Boeing 777X: World’s largest twin-engine jet completes first flight

The 777X test flight comes after Boeing's 737 Max plane was grounded following two fatal crashes.

www.bbc.com

 

[esseeeayeenn]

FWIW with respect to Sunrise, B777X has flown for the first time:

Boeing 777X: World’s largest twin-engine jet completes first flight

The 777X test flight comes after Boeing's 737 Max plane was grounded following two fatal crashes.

www.bbc.com

I hope there has been full disclosure of its software systems!

 

[coriander]

 

[RooFlyer]

Jeez those engines are big!

 

[Ansett]

They also seem to be well forward of the wing........ Dos this plane have MCAS too?

 

[coriander]

Jeez those engines are big!

Yes, 3.35m diameter!

 

[OZDUCK]

They also seem to be well forward of the wing........ Dos this plane have MCAS too?

I would assume that as it is completely a FWB plane, like a modern plane should be, then MCAS does not come into play. It is only on an outdated design like the 737 MAX that such a system is necessary. (Of course one of the pilots on the forum will now come forward and point out my errors.)

 

[esseeeayeenn]

I would assume that as it is completely a FWB plane, like a modern plane should be, then MCAS does not come into play. It is only on an outdated design like the 737 MAX that such a system is necessary. (Of course one of the pilots on the forum will now come forward and point out my errors.)

I'm not a pilot but my understanding is that the need for MCAS arose principally because Boeing was trying to avoid the need to retrain pilots to fly the 737MAX.
Moving the engines made the MAX behave differently to earlier 737s. So they had to do something to make it behave as pilots would expect.
Also did you mean FBW? Or do you think the 777X has friends with benefits?

 

[OZDUCK]

I'm not a pilot but my understanding is that the need for MCAS arose principally because Boeing was trying to avoid the need to retrain pilots to fly the 737MAX.
Moving the engines made the MAX behave differently to earlier 737s. So they had to do something to make it behave as pilots would expect.
Also did you mean FBW? Or do you think the 777X has friends with benefits?

It is obviously a new advanced design so Boeing can say they are not like Airbus - they call it Fly Wire Boeing