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Project Sunrise: A350 or 777X?

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Just heard on the 1200 news with Alan Joyce seemingly saying that given there will be many Flight Captains made redundandt in China in the future, it may be a possible source for crewing the Project Sunrise flights! I'm sure I heard it correctly.
 

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Just heard on the 1200 news with Alan Joyce seemingly saying that given there will be many Flight Captains made redundandt in China in the future, it may be a possible source for crewing the Project Sunrise flights! I'm sure I heard it correctly.
Yes you heard it correctly

 

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Just heard on the 1200 news with Alan Joyce seemingly saying that given there will be many Flight Captains made redundandt in China in the future, it may be a possible source for crewing the Project Sunrise flights! I'm sure I heard it correctly.
Simply "Wow!"

I understand that it is a commercial fight, and Alan is paid to fight hard for the company side - which he is clearly doing. But this has become almost cutthroat.

Such a direct and utter threat to current QF pilots!! And the problem is that it cannot be taken as a bluff.....
 

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Simply "Wow!"

I understand that it is a commercial fight, and Alan is paid to fight hard for the company side - which he is clearly doing. But this has become almost cutthroat.

Such a direct and utter threat to current QF pilots!! And the problem is that it cannot be taken as a bluff.....
I think AJ wants Sunrise to be his lasting legacy and nothing will stop him from achieving it.
 

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I think AJ wants Sunrise to be his lasting legacy and nothing will stop him from achieving it.
As I have said before, I respect the focus. Qantas cannot compete on prices, it has a relatively tiny market, and it is based in isolation under the tail of the donkey that is the world, geographically. IMHO without Sunrise Qantas will just slowly wither into a shell airline that offers just domestic product and some international codeshares....... and I do not want to see that day.
 

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As I have said before, I respect the focus. Qantas cannot compete on prices, it has a relatively tiny market, and it is based in isolation under the tail of the donkey that is the world, geographically. IMHO without Sunrise Qantas will just slowly wither into a shell airline that offers just domestic product and some international codeshares....... and I do not want to see that day.
For Europe maybe. They're absolutely dominating the Australia-USA market. No danger there.
 

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BNE/SYD/MEL-LAX
BNE/SYD/MEL-SFO
SYD-DFW
BNE-ORD
SYD-HNL
LAX-JFK

Close to 50% market share out of 7 airlines.
Thank you - 50% of the Aussie - USA market sounds good. Possibly due to competing on those routes with another country that suffers/enjoys high staff costs?
 

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QF toyed with the idea for Project Sunrise and then discarded. Now looks like NZ are serious with proceeding.......

 

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Quite understandably, I think airlines today are grappling with survival issues in the face of a pandemic, rather than fleet lay-out design. I think many ideas will be put on the backburner for the rest of the year....
 

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Looks like from my worst nightmare- stuck with some strangers' snores and screaming babies in a super tight bunk bed arrangement. What an awful awful idea.

But hey- said strangers can enjoy this 'comfort' while I sip my champers up the front! :cool:
 

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If the regulatory hurdles can be met, I think there is a product for these more long haul flights whereby you sit on the bottom bunk (like an overnight train) then the cabin crew can convert the wall into 2 or 3 bunks for the night.

Can be done as a "private bunk room" with 2 or 3 bunks, or a "dorm bunk room" with 4 or 6 bunks (2/3 on both walls).
 

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Looks like from my worst nightmare- stuck with some strangers' snores and screaming babies in a super tight bunk bed arrangement.
I read somewhere that this was for adults only so you’ll be spared the screaming babies, but not the snorers.
Does the V configuration suggest it’s in the tail of the plane so you’ll be buffeted to sleep with the accompanying sounds from the toilets ?
 

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Snoring is an issue on any form of public transport where people sleep whetehr it be sitting up or lying down - regualrly hear snoreres on bus/train on daily commute to office.

I read somewhere else yesterday that AJ is keen to buya bunch of discounted 737-Max planes once cleared to fly again. But does anyone really want to ever fly on one.
 

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I read somewhere else yesterday that AJ is keen to buya bunch of discounted 737-Max planes once cleared to fly again. But does anyone really want to ever fly on one.
I read this earlier and thought the same. Although today I also though that this could be some really good posturing/signalling to Airbus to get a better deal on A350-1000's or A320's etc.
 
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