Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

That’s why I said “some easing”.

Hoping to get to the UK at the end of the year but despite their high vaccination rates that seems very unlikely to go ahead. The government is moving way to slowly on this for my liking.
 
The quicker the Sydney outbreak is contained, the further away any meaningful reopening of Australia's borders. Best hope might be *not* to get back to daily zeros.
 
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That’s why I said “some easing”.

Hoping to get to the UK at the end of the year but despite their high vaccination rates that seems very unlikely to go ahead. The government is moving way to slowly on this for my liking.
End of 2021 is a pipe dream. Sorry. I don’t think U.K./Aus will come back much before this time next year (and possibly not til Christmas 2022).
 
End of 2021 is a pipe dream. Sorry. I don’t think U.K./Aus will come back much before this time next year (and possibly not til Christmas 2022).

This is where need to be able to use mutltiple emojis to "like" as post. In this case "agree" + :( + ❤️
 
I was hoping for home quarantine from the UK at the end of the year, not for a green travel bubble with no quarantine. I hope it's not the end of next year.
 
I was hoping for home quarantine from the UK at the end of the year, not for a green travel bubble with no quarantine. I hope it's not the end of next year.
I hear you. But I just don’t think it’s going to happen. U.K. will be in the depths of winter, not even our own boffins seem to know what’s going to happen w covid + killer flu. I can’t see australia risking opening to U.K. during our winter, more likely to happen in the U.K. spring (although risky w election) or (more likely) summer.

best hope *might* be for Aus to be bubbled with Singapore and sing also allowing U.K. entry on reasonable quarantine terms/vaxxed U.K. travellers allowed into sing. I still think this is the most likely way I’ll first see my family - whether it happens by Christmas is another thing!
 
The thing is that if Singapore has a bubble with the UK, if we open a bubble with Singapore then New Zealand could decide to end the bubble with Australia if they’re not ready for a bubble with Singapore as well under those conditions. So there’s a fair bit for authorities to consider.
 
The thing is that if Singapore has a bubble with the UK, if we open a bubble with Singapore then New Zealand could decide to end the bubble with Australia if they’re not ready for a bubble with Singapore as well under those conditions. So there’s a fair bit for authorities to consider.
Nobody is going to have a bubble with the UK. If they are happy to accept UK travellers with minimal conditions it means they'll accept almost anyone because they're happy with their own e.g. vaccination status.
 
No, we won’t have bubbles with anyone from the U.K. The question is on what basis will we be allowed in elsewhere. Fully vaxxed Brits now seem to be able to go to most European places so hoping the rest of the world follows suit soon
 
Bubbles are not feasible or really possible outside of Aus-NZ and some of the pacific countries close by. Having a bubble with any Asian country/European country doesn't really make sense because Australia and NZ are basically islands on their own. If we look at a country like Singapore as an example, they have already said by end of this year fully jabbed travellers will be exempt from quarantine - ergo, people from all over the world will come to Singapore, and this is considered "too risky" for Australia.

If Australia really wanted to help stranded Australians, it would allow fully jabbed (with approved vaccine) citizens/residents to return with minimal quarantine and a PCR test. This approach is very low risk and needs to be done outside of the current cap arrangements.

The problem is Australia, and the majority of Australians don't want low risk. They want 0-risk. That approach, as we can all see is one that will take many years, if at all possible. The quicker we can get a policy allowing fully-jabbed Australians to come to Australia, quarantine at home for a few days, get a PCR test and be free, the better.
 
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Tiley rules out hard quarantine for players ahead of Australian Open

this will be interesting. Can’t seem victoria being as keen to let go of the Aussie open as the GP, and gauntlet is being thrown down. Don’t see how you can allow players & entourages to skip quarantine while Australian citizens are not permitted to do the same. A glimmer of hope? Or “phase 2” of the “home quarantine trial”? The cynic in me says the latter.
 
Tiley rules out hard quarantine for players ahead of Australian Open

this will be interesting. Can’t seem victoria being as keen to let go of the Aussie open as the GP, and gauntlet is being thrown down. Don’t see how you can allow players & entourages to skip quarantine while Australian citizens are not permitted to do the same. A glimmer of hope? Or “phase 2” of the “home quarantine trial”? The cynic in me says the latter.

On the news to night the proposal appeared to be a 'hub'. So a quarantine of sorts, but players free to congregate, train and mix with others in the AO group.
 
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Tiley rules out hard quarantine for players ahead of Australian Open

this will be interesting. Can’t seem victoria being as keen to let go of the Aussie open as the GP, and gauntlet is being thrown down. Don’t see how you can allow players & entourages to skip quarantine while Australian citizens are not permitted to do the same. A glimmer of hope? Or “phase 2” of the “home quarantine trial”? The cynic in me says the latter.
The PM dropped a comment a day or two ago about maybe end of this year or beginning of next year we may get to Phase 2, of which this may allow vaccinated Aussies to leave our fine country and return with planned 7 days home quarantine.

This was planned for Phase 3, but he stated this may be allowed in Phase 2.
 
Given the serious pressure on opening up is coming from the traditional conservative leaning media outlets I can’t see restrictions holding out as long as some here predict. Not at the moment obviously but the current lockdown and increased vaccines will get vaccination numbers up and then the pressure will definitely come on.
 
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Realistically... Once a highish number are vaccinated (say 70% - if that happen), then there's not going to be a lot of choice. Things in the USA and UK seem very close to normal (get a look at the soccer crowds on the street - "in their millions" as ABC reported).

The question to ask, once we're largely vaccinated, is "well what next?". Neither "wait until the world is vaccinated" or "wait until COVID is eradicated" are acceptable answers.
 

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