Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

mviy

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The irony is that VA probably benefit more from the captive Australian leisure market, compared to QF with the international operations gone. VA can’t even get across the Tasman… in effect it would be better for VA to keep the borders closed…
Well the borders need to reopen eventually so they should be focused on how to improve the profitability over the long term rather than any possible short term benefit from borders being closed.
 

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The irony is that VA probably benefit more from the captive Australian leisure market, compared to QF with the international operations gone. VA can’t even get across the Tasman… in effect it would be better for VA to keep the borders closed…

If they want to drive value via Velocity, they need international partners (which they still have) and the opportunity to use those international partners.
 

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This is a massive concern for opening up the borders - What pisses me off is that the government is saying that they will work around people who choose to not get vaccinated and will take that in to consideration when opening up borders. So selfish muppets who want borders closed will not take the vaccine and make those who want to do the right thing suffer.
 

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I wonder if Gladys would be prepared to put up some sort of countdown clock to the 5 million vaccination target for NSW on the outside of Parliament House in Macquarie Street in Sydney?
 

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This is a massive concern for opening up the borders - What pisses me off is that the government is saying that they will work around people who choose to not get vaccinated and will take that in to consideration when opening up borders. So selfish muppets who want borders closed will not take the vaccine and make those who want to do the right thing suffer.

I'm surprised it is only a quarter. For people living in Australia, outside of the people on this forum, the most vulnerable and airport workers - what possible incentive is there to take the jab for the large majority of the country?

Life has been normal for a while, and the jab doesn't mean you can travel anyway, so what is the point? I have spoken to quite a few friends in Sydney/Melbourne in the past week (aged late 20s to late 30s). When I asked if they were planning to get jabbed, all but one laughed and said "why bother?"
 

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And I’m sure those 3 people would argue that you’re being selfish if you see it any other way. Especially as they are going on what the read/see/hear in the media, given how the media like to make everything more dramatic than it really is (as that’s where their commercial interest is).

I think the messaging is potentially confusing... on the one hand we are told not to worry about the virus because it is relatively mild, but on the other we are told the virus is so severe we need to bring Aussies home. I'm not sure the media, commentators and advocates for repatriation can run both arguments and expect public to embrace both.
 

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I tried a week ago to book some form of appointment for a jab. The outcome was interesting. Mostly nothing within 2 months, and but not taking bookings beyond that. A couple that were within the week, but they entailed going to a new GP, and driving about 3 hours each way. Upshot was that I ended up with no appointment. So, I'd like to, but it seems strangely difficult.

How hard would it be to set something up in the Bunnings car park, and jab everyone who comes through. You'd have have the population in one day.
 

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I tried a week ago to book some form of appointment for a jab. The outcome was interesting. Mostly nothing within 2 months, and but not taking bookings beyond that. A couple that were within the week, but they entailed going to a new GP, and driving about 3 hours each way. Upshot was that I ended up with no appointment. So, I'd like to, but it seems strangely difficult.

How hard would it be to set something up in the Bunnings car park, and jab everyone who comes through. You'd have have the population in one day.

I was thinking the other day... ~20K people getting tested a day here in Vic... why not just jab them at the same time?
 

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. I'm not sure the media, commentators and advocates for repatriation can run both arguments and expect public to embrace both.
Generalising, but much of the media have almost zero interest in running a consistent argument. Whatever will generate the most views or reads at any particular point in time. Just has to be dramatic, doesn’t have to support any particular narrative other than “OMG look at this”.
 

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Where in Melbourne are you, are you getting AZ? These are the current wait times for walk-ins across Melbourne A9D0F9CF-D856-4C3A-B183-D2865F07A107.png
I tried a week ago to book some form of appointment for a jab. The outcome was interesting. Mostly nothing within 2 months, and but not taking bookings beyond that. A couple that were within the week, but they entailed going to a new GP, and driving about 3 hours each way. Upshot was that I ended up with no appointment. So, I'd like to, but it seems strangely difficult.

How hard would it be to set something up in the Bunnings car park, and jab everyone who comes through. You'd have have the population in one day
 

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I'm surprised it is only a quarter. For people living in Australia, outside of the people on this forum, the most vulnerable and airport workers - what possible incentive is there to take the jab for the large majority of the country?

Life has been normal for a while, and the jab doesn't mean you can travel anyway, so what is the point? I have spoken to quite a few friends in Sydney/Melbourne in the past week (aged late 20s to late 30s). When I asked if they were planning to get jabbed, all but one laughed and said "why bother?"

It’s to prevent lockdowns and state border closures. It’s to stop disruptions caused by being at an exposure site and spending hours lining up to get tested, then some sort of isolation period. It’s about having your grandparents around for dinner or more than 5 or 10 people at a gathering. It’s about being able to hold your wedding where, when, and with how many people you want. It’s so that if you do get covid, you hopefully won’t get seriously sick. It’s so you can go to your footy game.

And if you’re not doing it for yourself, you may wish to do it for your partner and family, so that you don’t end up without an income.
 
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This is the response every time on the pressure build up, sooner or later, Scomo has to crack under the pressure
Not relevant to this thread, as they mean we would be exempt from domestic COVID restrictions. For example, if I as NT resident visited Melbourne and went to MCG for footy game, and infectious person at the game, I would fly straight back to NT and not have to quarantine for 14 days at $3,000 cost like my unvaccinated NT travelling brethren.
 

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Comments from Mark McGowan today. For once I agree with him.
A) Anti Vaxxers can't stop us from opening.
B) Give a schedule/plan/date to open and give people time to vaccinate.


“We can’t keep international borders and other things locked down forever because some people refuse to get vaccinated,” he told reporters on Tuesday.

“Once Australians are broadly vaccinated, once we educate everyone about the benefits of it, once we tell people what is going to happen in the future about whatever the border arrangements might be internationally in particular, and give them the opportunity to get vaccinated, at that point in time we can look to further opening internationally.
 

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I'm surprised it is only a quarter. For people living in Australia, outside of the people on this forum, the most vulnerable and airport workers - what possible incentive is there to take the jab for the large majority of the country?

Life has been normal for a while, and the jab doesn't mean you can travel anyway, so what is the point? I have spoken to quite a few friends in Sydney/Melbourne in the past week (aged late 20s to late 30s). When I asked if they were planning to get jabbed, all but one laughed and said "why bother?"
A countdown to border openings could be the push they need :)
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I tried a week ago to book some form of appointment for a jab. The outcome was interesting. Mostly nothing within 2 months, and but not taking bookings beyond that. A couple that were within the week, but they entailed going to a new GP, and driving about 3 hours each way. Upshot was that I ended up with no appointment. So, I'd like to, but it seems strangely difficult.

How hard would it be to set something up in the Bunnings car park, and jab everyone who comes through. You'd have have the population in one day.
Or the footie/rugby etc - take your pick. Make it a condition of attending large scale events - There needs to be some carrots in the equation, clearly most people aren't self-motivated enought.
 

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