Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

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They could do a token gesture of doing some points planes for the first few days similar to NZ flights. If flights to the UK do resume in late December I'll probably go then or early in 2022 (depending on pricing and seating availability).
I'm off to USA & Canada via USA as soon as I can.

We flew to Canada nonstop to YVR few Januarys ago (early January) but was very expensive in economy. Over $3k return from memory. Next time, I will fly to LAX or SFO & have a stopover & save a fortune.
 

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so if we have fed election in early Oct ( I think they need to go now, before tide turns & real estate falls off the inevitable cliff, but anyway) then Qantas starting 19 December 2021, sounds about right. Massive advertising campaign, a lot of it free. More lead time would be better.
If this happens I would be ecstatic. Can't see opening that soon though.

Even March 2022 (2 years shut) would be quicker than I see, maybe July 2022 as Josh indicated? Then question of how to return home. UK traffic light system would be good. Can see home quarantine compulsory for maybe 6 months at least to start though.

All I know is every day that passes is one day closer to being able to travel.
 

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I'm off to USA & Canada via USA as soon as I can.

We flew to Canada nonstop to YVR few Januarys ago (early January) but was very expensive in economy. Over $3k return from memory. Next time, I will fly to LAX or SFO & have a stopover & save a fortune.
I'd fly to SEA and drive/train over, avoids the mandatory hotel quarantine in Canada (for now).
 

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Politically Morrision is using the UK 'Nudge Policy'. StackPath ; also on the public service. Sadly 'Doing Nothing' is a choice in the framework. Backed up by targeted political advertisements, around the next election. The slogan will be guitar strumming 'Keeping everyone safe' with emotional reinforcing images; if that one makes the cut. I suppose they will leave out homelessness, and watering down bail laws for violent offenders again. And those stranded overseas: Well the less said the better.

There are many tinpot country dictatorships that don't allow their citizens to leave - or return, and Australia is doing a good job- right up there with North Korea and East Germany. However the blowback will occur when other countries open up, especially Singapore. Jealously , envy and fresh Facebook pics may ignite discontent.

I plan to have my two cattle shots locally, and fly to the US, were everyone can have a Moderna, and probably a Moderna variant booster by then. And what is the risk when I come back, relative to students and 'businessmen' coming in.
 

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If this happens I would be ecstatic. Can't see opening that soon though.

Even March 2022 (2 years shut) would be quicker than I see, maybe July 2022 as Josh indicated? Then question of how to return home. UK traffic light system would be good. Can see home quarantine compulsory for maybe 6 months at least to start though.

All I know is every day that passes is one day closer to being able to travel.

All we can really do is encourage our friends and family and colleagues to get vaccinated, with anything, as soon as possible. Try to negate any negativeness around the vaccine rollout and vaccines (unlike some other posters on here ;) ).

The faster the population is vaccinated the earlier good decisions will be made...
 

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I reckon the Federal Government will call an early election this year because the longer they wait, the less is the impact of 'you are a God for saving us from Covid' and more is the impact of internal friction regarding border closures etc

30% of Australia is migration I believe and they wanna see their families overseas
 

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I'm finding the number of articles in the press and interviews on TV in the last week or two saying that borders must start to reopen - or at least we need a plan to allow that to happen - quite encouraging.
And we all know how quickly pollies can change based on public perception
 

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All very well but there was a lot of negative coverage of State Border closures and you saw how much difference that caused amongst the voters of QLD and WA.
 

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All very well but there was a lot of negative coverage of State Border closures and you saw how much difference that caused amongst the voters of QLD and WA.

Yes, but things can change at both the state and federal levels. The Vic Parliament for example has to approve the extension of any state of emergency. That only passed last time because the upper house decided that 'yes', we still needed the powers in place. That could change once vaccination rates increase. At the Fed level, the declarations under the Biosecuity Act can only be those that are essential, and cannot be acheived in a less intrusive way. That could also change based on the vaccine roll out.
 

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I expect if things don't get relaxed once the vaccine rollout has progressed, there'll be further legal challenges to try to force things to open up, perhaps if it's after the election the Federal Government could even back some of those moves if the states are still blocking it at that point.
 
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Not looking good for Taiwan

May 9 - 1
May 10 - 15
May 11 - 11
May 12 - 21
May 13 - 25
May 14 - 34
May 15 - 185

Have only vaccinated 186k too (population the size of Australia)
Has their overconfidence bitten them on the backside?
 

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I cant see a federal election happening this year, covid policy unlikely to have the same benefit for the Federal Government as it has had for some state premier incumbents.

They will want to go to the polls early May next year with a more election friendly budget.
 

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There was some press a few weeks ago re how Taiwan was at the back of the vaccination queue due to having managed cases so well without one. They were wanting to wait on mrna options due to low trust on chinese vaccines but were late to secure contracts.
 

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with anything, as soon as possible

Irresponsible advice. Whilst rolling out vaccinations quickly is critical , Australians should not just "take anything", they should get the vaccine which is medically recommended for their circumstances.
 

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Irresponsible advice. Whilst rolling out vaccinations quickly is critical , Australians should not just "take anything", they should get the vaccine which is medically recommended for their circumstances.
I disagree to some extent.
The fear mongering over a vaccine where the benefits far outweigh the negatives is astounding. I have had my first AZ shot (I’m under 50) and any concerns were so minimal that I didn’t give it a second thought. Even with what we know now I’d take the AZ again
 

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All very well but there was a lot of negative coverage of State Border closures and you saw how much difference that caused amongst the voters of QLD and WA.
Pre-Covid, there was a shortage of hospital beds, and hospitals on bypass, and ICU units full. Various state premiers want to believe that they do not have to permanently add expensive Covid units and quarantine to their health and hospital budgets. They are dreaming. Shutting down OS travel, so they can cap Hospital bed expansion is just not on.

You would have to search, but drron was the first one to predict an October election a while back, citing APH in September is moreorless closed. Budget tax cuts and booming property values another lick of goodness, tradies basking in murderous quotes, plus Labor staying silent with any bad news that may scare the flock. Yesterday Victoria announced new land tax increases. I expect other tax increases are planned more widely. Morrison has a backup plan, where he can change his mind, and say he always said he would under promise.

Hopefully he will match the USA in offering a 1 Million dollar covid jab lottery prize(s) for those who get vaccinated, overlapping the election period. What a nudge unit.

Now there are external events that could derail that plan, such as severe stock market corrections, or a huge Australian wide covid breakout caused by states trying to recreate what Victoria did by going cheap with a parallel quarantine system, without independent oversight, and not taking onboard past lessons learned - such as a national standard, and rationing PPE. Qualified experts have already made their comments known about Howard Springs. For just a piddly 400 jobs.

I agree - family reunion is very strong, Australia has many overseas borns, and people should be angry that over a year has passed and no quarantine facilities set up (because that would be a recurrent cost under someones budget).
 

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