Pilots warn on Jetstar risk

Discussion in 'Jetstar' started by Yada Yada, Jul 21, 2006.

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  1. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    The Qantas pilots are sounding a little desperate.
     

  2. Dave Noble

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    I dunno. It could be that , or they could have genuine concerns. As it goes on to say, the 180 rating hasn't been given to any other operator straight out, but over time as experience increases.

    Dave
     
  3. bravoecho1

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    Having seen what CX went through to get their ETOPS approval when they first bought the "bus", I would have to agree with the second half of Dave's comment.
     
  4. serfty

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    At appears that a 180 ETOPS certification is not as 'straight out' as the Pilots are inferring. It's more of a step up from an existing 2 hour certification:
     
  5. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    It's an interesting point. I guess JQ is looking to leverage the status of its parent to some extent but perhaps it won't necessarily count in this situation.
     
  6. NM

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    However, JQ has no current or proven historic experience with maintaining or operating A330 aircraft. The pilots who are part of the 2-hour ETOPS certification for the Trans-Tasman operations are not the same ones to be flying the SYD-HNL missions using A330 aircraft.

    I would expect that if Jetstar International wants to be identified as an airline in its own right, then it should be expected to earn any ETOPS rating the same way any other airline has to. If using QF maintenance services, then that part of the requirements should be simple. If using existing QF pilots then it should also make it simple. If they are employing new pilots with new management and training processes, then they need to assessed just as any other airline needs to be.
     
  7. serfty

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    Thar bee th' rub!

    Current QF pilots do not want to work for JQ! (or this thread would be redundant!)
     
  8. NM

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    But I am sure JQ would be very pleased to employ them .... for up to $100,000 less per year :rolleyes:.
     
  9. Commuter

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    I believe there may well be at least some (if not many) pilots with quite an extensive ETOPS experience on A330s flying for JQ in due course - and they're not from QF.
     
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