OWE Fares/Rules Changing on 10 July?

[Homer]

I have a DONE4 beginning in September that I have booked through a TA and which will be ticketed by QF. My TA just advised that I need to ticket (ie pay for) the DONE4 by 10 July as she has been told that the OWE fares and some rules are changing on that date.

Perhaps this has been covered elsewhere on the site but I wasn't able to find a reference. Has a price rise been announced? Are there any significant rule changes?

 

[simongr]

I just asked on the FT OW forum - will advise if I gt an answer.
S

 

[Mal]

There could be some changes to the rules being made in preparation for the rollout of 'online booking' of OWE's through the airline/Oneworld websites.

Will be interesting to see what (if anything) is changing.

 

[oz_mark]

This may help:

Latest Fare Changes

Oneworld and Global Fare Changes27 June 2008
Effective 01 July 2008 changes have been made to the following Oneworld and Global fares product.

Changes
- increases to fares ex Australia / New Zealand / China
- Ekaterinburg (Asian Russia) to be treated as part of Europe-Middle East

Airfares
Oneworld Explorer Fares (AONE*/DONE*/L#ONE*)
Global Explorer Fares (AGLOB*/DGLOB*/L#GLOB*)
Oneworld Circle Trip Explorer Fares (AONEWC*/ DONEWC*/ L#ONEWC*)

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Changes
- increases to all fares except ex Australia / South America / Japan / Indonesia
- introduction of fares ex Cambodia and Vietnam
- Paragraph 4.b,B amended to read "for -CIR29SA fares, one Pacific crossing must be to/from Chile/Argentina"

Airfares
Oneworld Circle Pacific Fare (ACIR**/DCIR**/LCIR**)

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Changes
- increases to all fares except ex Australia / Japan / Indonesia
- clarification that for the purposes of this rule, surface segments are "between any two airports"

Airfares
Oneworld Circle Asia and South West Pacific Fare (AAS13/17/ DAS13/17/ LAS13/17


To avoid the fare increase bookings created prior 01 July 2008 must be ticketed by 11 July 2008.

 

[Homer]

This may help:

Latest Fare Changes

I think this must be the change my TA referred to. I have asked her to quantify the fare increase but in the meantime perhaps someone with a login (you know who you are ) would care to check on the QF Industry site...

 

[simongr]

Oh cough - I do not understand this - the A$ is strong and most Ex-AUS fares are going to be ticketed through QF so the revenue must be increasing. I am trying to think through the financing of the fares to work out hat would justify the increase other than QF campaigning to get more fuel costs covered?

 

[opusman]

I am trying to think through the financing of the fares to work out hat would justify the increase other than QF campaigning to get more fuel costs covered?

Why do you need another reason besides that?

 

[Mal]

Oh cough - I do not understand this - the A$ is strong and most Ex-AUS fares are going to be ticketed through QF so the revenue must be increasing.

Pretty much all Qantas fares have either gone up, or are due to go up in the next few days due to fuel costs. I presume Qantas also feels that ONE and other assorted tickets should also go up.

 

[NM]

The fares for these products seem to be reviewed twice a year. And every time the ex-Aus prices go up! Its now a far cry from when the fare was around A$7000 and the A$ was at US$0.50, making it very attractive when being quoted to our US-based management.

I assume these fares are becoming more popular and there is a belief the OneWorld products have strong market penetration in Australia (read: perceived low competition). As always, such fares seem to be based on what the market will pay and not about the underlying costs to provide.

 

[Febs]

My TA advised the same yesterday...had my DONE4 ticketed today (thought it already had been! :shock.

Anyone know how much the fares are going up? Particularly a DONE4 ex-AU on QF?

Cheers,
- Febs.

 

[Travel Guru]

New fare price for a DONE4 ex. Australia from 1 July will be $10999, AONE4 $15,499 and LONE4 (hows this for a price increase) $3699 High Season, $3499 Low Season.

There aren't any "significant" rule changes, its mainly the price hike which is affecting those with existing unticketed bookings.

If you need to know anything else, let me know, ive got all the new fare levels and rules in my inbox.

TG

 

[simongr]

Does anyone know if the AUS AA call centre accepts Oz based CCs now? I will be ticketing on Monday.

 

[Homer]

New fare price for a DONE4 ex. Australia from 1 July will be $10999

Thank you very much Travel Guru. I have a quote from my TA for a DONE4, ex Australia, for $10,499 prior to the price rise. So is this just a $500 price rise from QF?

 

[Alanslegal]

TG,

Any information regarding new fares re: DCIR22 and DONE4 ex-MNL?

Thank Q,

 

[Mwenenzi]

I have a quote from my TA for a DONE4, ex Australia, for $10,499 prior to the price rise. So is this just a $500 price rise from QF?

With or without fuel surcharges & taxes?
Travel Guru prices will be before fuel surcharges & taxes.

 

[Travel Guru]

DONE4 ex MNL US$6134

DCIR22 ex Aust. A$9299

All before taxes.

Current DONE4 ex Aust. is indeed $10499 before taxes, so its around a $500 price hike which is on par with what corporate point to point netts rose this week.

TG

 

[Febs]

While we're on the topic of pricing...are DONE4's quite hard to give discounts on?

Curious, because when I compare direct flight prices between the QF website and my corporate TA (say, SYD-BOM-SYD for example), our corporate TA is up over $3,000 cheaper. Same with SYD-LAX-SYD. Sometimes up near $4,000.

For the DONE4 though, they were only $525 cheaper.

I presume this is because they have better bargaining power with QF, and there's less room to move on fares like the DONE4? Is $525 a decent discount from a DONE4?

Cheers,
- Febs.

 

[Travel Guru]

While we're on the topic of pricing...are DONE4's quite hard to give discounts on?

Curious, because when I compare direct flight prices between the QF website and my corporate TA (say, SYD-BOM-SYD for example), our corporate TA is up over $3,000 cheaper. Same with SYD-LAX-SYD. Sometimes up near $4,000.

For the DONE4 though, they were only $525 cheaper.

I presume this is because they have better bargaining power with QF, and there's less room to move on fares like the DONE4? Is $525 a decent discount from a DONE4?

Cheers,
- Febs.

That's correct, corporate and some other agencies (such as my own) have access to corporate point to point fares which are significantly cheaper in D than a fare you purchase from say Flight Centre or another retail agent.

These fares are contracted direct with QF, whereas your RTW fares are a mixed airline fare which Qantas doesn't discount.

All agents, retails, corporate etc receive the same DONE4 levels, so if your agent was $575 cheaper, it would be purely through discount into their commission.

Having said that given the price of a DONE4, unless you're a suit who only needs to be on the ground for 4-5 days and then return, you'd be mad to buy a point to point over a RTW fare.

TG

 

[Febs]

Thanks TG.

Having said that given the price of a DONE4, unless you're a suit who only needs to be on the ground for 4-5 days and then return, you'd be mad to buy a point to point over a RTW fare.

Yeah, my boss always makes his US trips round-the-world fares. I was hoping the DONE4 would be similar to or cheaper than the direct SYD-BOM-SYD flight, but the difference (after all taxes etc...) came in at $1,700. Still...$1,700 out of my pocket for a J RTW fare...not too bad!

Cheers,
- Febs.

 

[Alanslegal]

Thanks for providing the info TG

Looks like the fares have gone done for a DONE4 ex MNL, as the OW website currently shows the base fare as US$7022.

DONE4 ex MNL US$6134

All before taxes.
TG