Oneworld separate ticket interline changes

[Quickstatus]

Qantas please note:

Your competitor VA still checkin their passengers and interlines their luggage across separate PNR to their partner DL.

Can you do something similar on a bilateral basis with AA. You have shown that you can with EK. Can you PLEASE arrange it with AA whom you say you have a deep and meaningful relationship.

 

[kpc]

Qantas please note:

Your competitor VA still checkin their passengers and interlines their luggage across separate PNR to their partner DL.

Can you do something similar on a bilateral basis with AA. You have shown that you can with EK. Can you PLEASE arrange it with AA whom you say you have a deep and meaningful relationship.

2 weeks ago I was refused an interline for a Va-Va flight on separate PNRs

 

[mannej]

Qantas please note:

Your competitor VA still checkin their passengers and interlines their luggage across separate PNR to their partner DL.

Can you do something similar on a bilateral basis with AA. You have shown that you can with EK. Can you PLEASE arrange it with AA whom you say you have a deep and meaningful relationship.

2 weeks ago I was refused an interline for a Va-Va flight on separate PNRs

Don't give QF any more ideas...

 

[Quickstatus]

What was the connection time. If less than MCT they may not interline.(or if too many hours till the next flight?)

 

[kpc]

What was the connection time. If less than MCT they may not interline.(or if too many hours till the next flight?)

3 hours 40 mins at Per....so had plenty of time to collect bags and recheck in.

 

[madrooster]

VA policy is not to interline. If you got them to interline, then that's an exception to the norm reported on AFF in general.

 

[serfty]

...
Your competitor VA still checkin their passengers and interlines their luggage across separate PNR to their partner DL.
...

Va have a policy not interlining on separate PNR's, even VA->VA.

You were lucky.

 

[kpc]

VA policy is not to interline. If you got them to interline, then that's an exception to the norm reported on AFF in general.

I knew that but the award booking could not be booked on one PNR and the call centre told me to book it separately and they would put notes in the booking for the luggage to be interlined....I was skeptical so allowed a long connection time to be safe...ps route was Syd-Per, Per-Xch-Cck

 

[Quickstatus]

Yes perhaps VA-VA, but I believe VA still has interline agreement with DL.

All QF needs to do is to have a bilateral agreement with AA outside OW.

 

[oz_mark]

Yes perhaps VA-VA, but I believe VA still has interline agreement with DL.

All QF needs to do is to have a bilateral agreement with AA outside OW.

Qantas don't need any additional agreements with AA - they already have an interline agreement. It is simply a Qantas policy not to through check luggage on separate PNR's. They can do it, if they chose to.

 

[Quickstatus]

Qantas don't need any additional agreements with AA - they already have an interline agreement. It is simply a Qantas policy not to through check luggage on separate PNR's. They can do it, if they chose to.

Yes that's why they need to have a bilateral agreement not an interline agreement from the OW framework which BA has trashed.

 

[dajop]

Yes that's why they need to have a bilateral agreement not an interline agreement from the OW framework which BA has trashed.

No they don't need a bilateral. QF could choose to through check luggage on separate itineraries within the framework of their existing interline agreements if they wanted to.

MH have made it clear on their or website they have chosen to continue through checking luggage to other oneworld airlines on separate tickets despite oneworld no longer having this as part of the alliance requirements. I'd guess that MH have not entered bilateral agreements with all other oneworld carriers , particularly as they also note on their website you may not be able to through check in reverse (from oneworld carrier to MH).

 

[cmon0005]

Flew CMB-HKG on UL on one ticket and HKG-MEL on QF on another ticket. UL at CMB through checked our bags without question.

Arrived in melb to find out our stroller for our little one didn't get loaded in hkg for some reason but qf baggage services got it back to us via a cx flight within 24 hours. Pretty good all round this is how it should be on all of the member airlines, shame that in reverse qantas won't do it.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Flew CMB-HKG on UL on one ticket and HKG-MEL on QF on another ticket. UL at CMB through checked our bags without question.

Arrived in melb to find out our stroller for our little one didn't get loaded in hkg for some reason but qf baggage services got it back to us via a cx flight within 24 hours. Pretty good all round this is how it should be on all of the member airlines, shame that in reverse qantas won't do it.

If you started the journey in CMB and had a return fare (ie nested) so a UL ticket CMB/HKG/CMB then a QF ticket HKG/MEL/HKG you may find the return flights are already linked because the flights would be merged in your checkin record (despite still remaining in separate res pnrs) so when you checkin at MEL with QF they UL oncarriage flight would already be visible and therefore your bag should be through tagged to CMB and you should receive both the QF and UL boarding passes in MEL.

 

[cmon0005]

If you started the journey in CMB and had a return fare (ie nested) so a UL ticket CMB/HKG/CMB then a QF ticket HKG/MEL/HKG you may find the return flights are already linked because the flights would be merged in your checkin record (despite still remaining in separate res pnrs) so when you checkin at MEL with QF they UL oncarriage flight would already be visible and therefore your bag should be through tagged to CMB and you should receive both the QF and UL boarding passes in MEL.

CMB-HKG HKG-MEL were the last sectors of our trip so i didn't get a chance to see if there were any added linked sectors in my bookings (would they have been visible in the manage my booking?)

UL in CMB said i had to get my QF boarding passes in HKG. Not sure if they couldn't or just couldn't be bothered.

 

[oz_mark]

MH have made it clear on their or website they have chosen to continue through checking luggage to other oneworld airlines on separate tickets despite oneworld no longer having this as part of the alliance requirements. I'd guess that MH have not entered bilateral agreements with all other oneworld carriers , particularly as they also note on their website you may not be able to through check in reverse (from oneworld carrier to MH).

Not sure it is due to lack of agreements. More that they can't speak for what another airline would do with separate tickets.

 

[madrooster]

Not sure it is due to lack of agreements. More that they can't speak for what another airline would do with separate tickets.

QF could through-check to SQ if they wanted to. The interline agreement exists for it, so it's possible if they had the will power to do it.

 

[Quickstatus]

Are interline agreements negotiated on a bilateral basis.
What are the negotiated elements in an interline agreement?

 

[ozbeachbabe]

CMB-HKG HKG-MEL were the last sectors of our trip so i didn't get a chance to see if there were any added linked sectors in my bookings (would they have been visible in the manage my booking?)

UL in CMB said i had to get my QF boarding passes in HKG. Not sure if they couldn't or just couldn't be bothered.

Not sure about UL being visible on QF MMB in separate pnrs. It may depend whether both carriers use Altea for checkin or not.

If UL checked your bag through to QF I imagine they would have given you the boarding passes if they could have. It's possible the link was down between QF and UL or some other reason. It's not like it's any more work to get the boarding pass for the downline carrier - at least it's not with Altea. Not sure what checkin system UL use and how complex through checkin is or adding in oncarriage on separate tickets.

It may not be possible to get an onwards boarding pass for a downline carrier if they are oversold as there may not physically be a seat in your ticketed cabin as any op-ups may yet to be actioned by the next carrier or more likely will be actioned at the port of embarkation. They may not do op-ups until flight close in case they get no-shows and whY and don't need to do op-ups or not as many.

Some carriers seem to block heaps of whY seats for their use eg QR seem to block all the exit rows plu the last few rows of whY and sometimes the first few rows so if the flight is quite full and they've blocked off more seats than what they have available for sale then the accepting airline will not be able issue a boarding pass if there's nothing available to allocate as only QR can unblock seats on their own flight.

It's always better to pre-allocate seats where possible which a lot of ppl on AFF would do anyway but it's surprising the amount of people who don't bother to do it despite a lot of airlines not charging for the privilege.

 

[Himeno]

Not sure what checkin system UL use and how complex through checkin is or adding in oncarriage on separate tickets.

UL uses Amadeus