Thanks for both of these. Very helpful.Gary, if you are still following.
There is an excellent summary in the Wiki, see section 14.5 . If you do not breach any of these rules, your award wil lock in as a OWA.
Here is an itinerary for 34,984 miles (Qantas figure may differ slightly):
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Singapore-London-Brisbane-San Francisco- Brisbane (+ notional/equivalent miles back to Singapore).
You would need to make additional arrangements outside of the OWA itinerary to get to Singapore to start the OWA and to commute between Brisbane and Melbourne.
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You need to return within 12 months of your original ticketed departure date to retain the 280k?
I have just commenced changing an AUG2020 OWA for April 2021
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Yeah that's what I was told. But note flights are not released 365 days in advance so it's really 350 days from ticketed departure date, although they may waive that in these times..
Before I had to cancel this years OWA I was wondering something....let's say I book a OWA in economy. As it gets closer to my first leg (say SYD to LAX), am I able to use more points to upgrade just that first leg to business without it effecting the overall OWA economy booking?
Would they allow the upgrade (subject to availability of course), and would they just charge the necessary upgrade points and would the rest of the OWA in economy remain untouched and still capped at 132.4k points? I ask as I know if you book even one leg in a higher class the whole OWA gets ticketed at the points for the highest class.
Would they allow the upgrade (subject to availability of course), and would they just charge the necessary upgrade points and would the rest of the OWA in economy remain untouched and still capped at 132.4k points? I ask as I know if you book even one leg in a higher class the whole OWA gets ticketed at the points for the highest class.
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No, the total ticket is based on the highest fare class. So in your example the points required jumps to 318k.
Plus you’d pay the change fee (5,000 point) and the taxes would be recalculated at the business class rate.
Individual flights are not upgradeable on a OWA, as such.
Edit: Just saw the above post, which confirms your understanding.
My latest attempt to contact QFF involved a wait time for more than an hour so I gave up.
Maybe you guys can help with my query.
I want to book flights from Lhasa to Chengdu early next year.
It is flown by China Eastern which i know is not part of OW but you can use qantas points to get award seats.
However, this forum is probably the best form of knowledge re booking award seats.
The QFF web based booking engine doesnt recognise the airport name Lhasa / LXA so I can't even try to check for award availability.
Interestingly UA Mileage Plus will allow me to book awards on this route with Air China but none available in the specific days that i want. ( So this may not be a political issue )
Has anyone managed to book award seats into or out of LXA with qantas points on MU?
Maybe you guys can help with my query.
I want to book flights from Lhasa to Chengdu early next year.
It is flown by China Eastern which i know is not part of OW but you can use qantas points to get award seats.
However, this forum is probably the best form of knowledge re booking award seats.
The QFF web based booking engine doesnt recognise the airport name Lhasa / LXA so I can't even try to check for award availability.
Interestingly UA Mileage Plus will allow me to book awards on this route with Air China but none available in the specific days that i want. ( So this may not be a political issue )
Has anyone managed to book award seats into or out of LXA with qantas points on MU?
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It's a limitation of QF.com
You would need to call QF FF to book:
[KVS Tool 9.8.1/Diamond - Awards/QF-OneWorld/Auto-Multi/CN]
Code:
LXA Lhasa CN [ZULS]
CTU Chengdu CN [ZUUU]
MON 01 Jun 2020 | 1 Seat
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
MU 5826 LXA 12:45 CTU 14:55 0 CS+ YS+
MU 2440 LXA 17:30 XNN 19:40 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5654 XNN 20:25 CTU 22:20 0 CS- YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2302 XIY 17:10 INC 18:30 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 2296 INC 23:50 CTU 01:40 +1 0 CS+ YS+
MU 2334 LXA 12:25 XIY 15:20 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2302 XIY 17:10 INC 18:30 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 2296 INC 23:50 CTU 01:40 +1 0 CS+ YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 5724 XIY 17:35 KMG 19:55 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5855 KMG 21:15 CTU 22:50 0 CS- YS+
MU 2334 LXA 12:25 XIY 15:20 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 5724 XIY 17:35 KMG 19:55 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5855 KMG 21:15 CTU 22:50 0 CS- YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2161 XIY 16:00 SHA 18:15 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5415 SHA 19:20 CTU 22:35 0 CS+ YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2161 XIY 16:00 SHA 18:15 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5417 SHA 19:30 CTU 23:00 0 CS+ YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2161 XIY 16:00 SHA 18:15 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5419 SHA 20:00 CTU 23:30 0 CS- YS+
MU 9620 LXA 11:15 XIY 14:15 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2156 XIY 17:35 XNN 19:10 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5654 XNN 20:25 CTU 22:20 0 CS- YS+
MU 2334 LXA 12:25 XIY 15:20 0 CS- YS+
-> MU 2156 XIY 17:35 XNN 19:10 0 CS+ YS+
-> MU 5654 XNN 20:25 CTU 22:20 0 CS- YS+Difficult question.
It depends on
whether the virus is under control
when you'll be allowed to leave and return to Australia
When the destination countries will do the same
what countries do you need to transit thru - eg USA on the way to Canada
ie there are a lot factors involved!
Overseas travel is looking positive in my estimation for later this year and certainly for 2021
September is looking a bit risky - I had a trip on the railway to Tibet from China mid september this year and have successfully postponed it until mid november and i have my fingers crossed.
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I’m posting this for the information of anyone who, like me, made a Qantas Classic oneworld J booking prior to the points increase in September last year. My husband and I were due to leave on June 1 on an extensive itinerary, including a three month stay in Toulouse to spend time with our son, and a daughter’s wedding in Tuscany in October (now postponed). The trip was to have lasted 9 months in total and took more than a year in the planning, including a number of posts on this forum late last year. My concern was that if I cancelled our trip, obviously when it becomes possible to take that trip, we would be up for the hefty increase in points from 280k to 318k each – a total of 76k points. That might not sound like a lot to others on this forum, but it’s quite an amount to us.
I have spoken to Celeste at Qantas’ Hobart office (why does Hobart seem to have the most experienced agents…) who, after consulting with a supervisory colleague, has advised me that my best way forward was to wait until the end of May and ring to rebook what I could of the trip for a date as far out as possible. This would take advantage of the current Qantas hold on charging for changes to award bookings and she advised that in all likelihood Qantas would have to continue to waive change fees for as long as they cannot provide flight coverage. The strategy would be to continue to ring and postpone by rebooking new dates for as long as it takes for flights to return to normal.
I honestly don’t know if this approach will work even with the current extraordinary Covid-19 circumstances. I’m guessing that we will end up having to find the extra miles and totally rebook. However, fortunately, we are retired and totally flexible in our dates (pending a new wedding date for the daughter..) and so we have nothing to lose by trying.
I would be interested if anyone else is in a similar position?
I have spoken to Celeste at Qantas’ Hobart office (why does Hobart seem to have the most experienced agents…) who, after consulting with a supervisory colleague, has advised me that my best way forward was to wait until the end of May and ring to rebook what I could of the trip for a date as far out as possible. This would take advantage of the current Qantas hold on charging for changes to award bookings and she advised that in all likelihood Qantas would have to continue to waive change fees for as long as they cannot provide flight coverage. The strategy would be to continue to ring and postpone by rebooking new dates for as long as it takes for flights to return to normal.
I honestly don’t know if this approach will work even with the current extraordinary Covid-19 circumstances. I’m guessing that we will end up having to find the extra miles and totally rebook. However, fortunately, we are retired and totally flexible in our dates (pending a new wedding date for the daughter..) and so we have nothing to lose by trying.
I would be interested if anyone else is in a similar position?
Hi!
So hoping to get some advice here since getting back into the qantas call center and have someone who know OWA is such a rarity these days for some reason (or just my bad luck).
Anyway, last week I received an email from qantas saying out OWA booking in Aug is now cancelled and they will process refund etc within 10 weeks. Now we don’t want cancellation we are happy to have the trip postponed to next year, so I called up and finally got someone who seemed to know OWA arrangement.
There are 2 people on the original booking (husband and I) and the whole way through we confirm that the seats are changed for the two of us. All successful they say, all I need is to pay for the difference in taxes, no problems even though they can’t tell me where the increase came from but anyway.
so I was waiting for the eticket numbers to come through, and while I got an email saying itinerary and eticket on the subject line I couldn’t see any eticket number. Waited for 24 hours and this morning I called back just to confirmed the trip has been ticketed.
after 3 consultants admit they don’t know (and one said haven’t heard of) how to process OWA, I finally got through to a consultant who seems to know. What she however told me appeared to be a stuffed up in the last process.
According to this consultant, the last consultant took my credit note and rebook the flight for my husband, created a new booking ref and that was it. So leaving my husband now have two bookings (one aug and one feb) and I have none. She also said in order for her to fix it, the only way she can do it is cancel my husbands aug flight and rebook it for me (why I don’t know because if the previous consultant used my credit note to book for my husband I can’t see why they can’t use my husbands credit note to book me, but then again she seemed irate so I dare not to challenge her)
She said the original taxes will be refunded (my old credit card is now cancelled and she asked me to deal with visa myself), no extra points but now I have a new booking code. So somehow my husband now gone to the original booking code with his flights updated and I sat on another booking code with the same flights.
I checkes the invoice and eticket came through with my name, on the new booking, with eticket number. All good there.
But my husband now is on the old booking number, with new flights, my qff account said it’s confirmed but I can’t see an eticket number.
do I need to call them again to check that out? I don’t want to jam their phone line but given the messed up I am also worried if the flights are booked correctly.
Thanks!
So hoping to get some advice here since getting back into the qantas call center and have someone who know OWA is such a rarity these days for some reason (or just my bad luck).
Anyway, last week I received an email from qantas saying out OWA booking in Aug is now cancelled and they will process refund etc within 10 weeks. Now we don’t want cancellation we are happy to have the trip postponed to next year, so I called up and finally got someone who seemed to know OWA arrangement.
There are 2 people on the original booking (husband and I) and the whole way through we confirm that the seats are changed for the two of us. All successful they say, all I need is to pay for the difference in taxes, no problems even though they can’t tell me where the increase came from but anyway.
so I was waiting for the eticket numbers to come through, and while I got an email saying itinerary and eticket on the subject line I couldn’t see any eticket number. Waited for 24 hours and this morning I called back just to confirmed the trip has been ticketed.
after 3 consultants admit they don’t know (and one said haven’t heard of) how to process OWA, I finally got through to a consultant who seems to know. What she however told me appeared to be a stuffed up in the last process.
According to this consultant, the last consultant took my credit note and rebook the flight for my husband, created a new booking ref and that was it. So leaving my husband now have two bookings (one aug and one feb) and I have none. She also said in order for her to fix it, the only way she can do it is cancel my husbands aug flight and rebook it for me (why I don’t know because if the previous consultant used my credit note to book for my husband I can’t see why they can’t use my husbands credit note to book me, but then again she seemed irate so I dare not to challenge her)
She said the original taxes will be refunded (my old credit card is now cancelled and she asked me to deal with visa myself), no extra points but now I have a new booking code. So somehow my husband now gone to the original booking code with his flights updated and I sat on another booking code with the same flights.
I checkes the invoice and eticket came through with my name, on the new booking, with eticket number. All good there.
But my husband now is on the old booking number, with new flights, my qff account said it’s confirmed but I can’t see an eticket number.
do I need to call them again to check that out? I don’t want to jam their phone line but given the messed up I am also worried if the flights are booked correctly.
Thanks!
I am kinda in the same situation, see my post below. We managed to rebooked (I hope) without incurring extra points. But there’s difference in taxes. If qantas initiated the cancellation they are very lenient at the moment with changes.
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We are booked to leave on 20/08 (US National Parks South West; Norway; Qatar and Alaska cruise)and I'm still deciding what to do. I can't see the US opening up soon, given their corona stats.
Princess has cancelled the cruise.
So I will have to make some changes to the itinerary.
I would ideally like to reschedule on the same booking (280,000 points) for May 2021.
Like everyone else, it took ages to plan the trip and too many hours on the phone with Qantas to get tickets issued .
For now I'm just waiting until end of July to decide what to do.
Princess has cancelled the cruise.
So I will have to make some changes to the itinerary.
I would ideally like to reschedule on the same booking (280,000 points) for May 2021.
Like everyone else, it took ages to plan the trip and too many hours on the phone with Qantas to get tickets issued .
For now I'm just waiting until end of July to decide what to do.
Hobart and Auckland Call Centres are the best, while Cape Town and Manila are not good in my experience.
Exchange rates will affect your refund.
I never wait for more than 60 minutes for the e-ticket. What do you have without it?
I am in a similar situation as you and your post was informative I have 3 concerns though.
1. Classic Flight Rewards will be valid for one year from the original ticketed departure date. (Is this rule going to be waived?)
2. If your initial flight is cancelled by the airline before the end of May won't the whole OWA be cancelled as others have reported here?
3. When you rebook the 1st flight won't all the other flights "drop off" and then the points for the booking be recalculated down? Will it still max out at 280K when you add flights back?
Cheers
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I share your distress.
We all know how much work goes into making a OWA and it is heartbreaking to see all that go to waste.
Did you have any trouble finding award seats for the same flights on the different dates?
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