Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[levelnine]

I have seen availability for NRT via MEL, but this is adding on too many miles.

How are you expecting to get from PER to NRT without transiting?

 

[bookworm]

How are you expecting to get from PER to NRT without transiting?

Thank you for responding.

I have listed Hong Kong/Singapore/Kuala Lumpur as transit points , as I feel they will use up fewer miles than a transit via Melbourne.
I forgot to mention that this is for J class , sorry for this.

 

[cma_369]

And, conflicting with a couple of other reports that this is not the case. Interesting.

Yeah I feel like i won't know until i call and change my last leg after 1709, lucky i have the points

 

[levelnine]

I have listed Hong Kong/Singapore/Kuala Lumpur as transit points

PER-SIN on 19 Aug on QF. SIN-NRT-VYR on 20 Aug on JL. Both have availability.

 

[jeza]

PER-SIN on 19 Aug on QF. SIN-NRT-VYR on 20 Aug on JL. Both have availability.


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Nice find & creative thinking @levelnine only issue would be whether @bookworm has enough status to see the QF J flight yet.

PER-SFO & then make your own way to YVR could be another option.

 

[pye1201]

I hope some of the experts on this forum have the time to check my Oneworld J Award itinerary:

SYD-HKG-CMB (stopover) -LHR (extended stopover) -JFK (extended stopover) -MIA(economy)-CUN (stopover) -DFW-NRT-BKK (stopover) -HKG-SYD. 33,625 miles

As advised here previously, I have booked SYD-HKG-CMB-LHR content (arriving LHR 22/6/20) and now want to add to the existing booking, the remaining flights on dummy dates to lock it all in. My husband and I are totally flexible with dates as we will not return until March 2021. We will be living in France from June through Oct 2020, at which time I hope to change the remaining flight dates to late 2020 and early 2021. I have gone with major carriers and airports to make it easier to keep route and carrier when rebooking the dates. I should pre-empt the award miles increase by booking before September 18, however if I have to make some changes before our departure in June 2020, we will have the necessary additional 76k points by then. I am hopeful though that if I can make the changes after the first two legs have been flown, our points cost will remain at 560k total.

I have checked and found the following availability for my dummy dates in J using the Qantas award search for most flights and Asia Miles for the Cathay Pacific flights which I couldn’t find on the Qantas engine.

27/6/20: LHR-JFK on BA185
4/7/20: JFK-MIA(economy) on AA1554
MIA-CUN on AA2492
6/7/20: CUN-DFW on AA1392
DFW-NRT on JL11
7/7/20: NRT-BKK on JL707
When more flights open up, hoping to get a long layover in Tokyo

9/7/20: BKK-HKG on CX616
HKG-SYD on CX111
Again, hope to get a long layover in HKG when I change these dates

Have I committed a grave error anywhere? Is my logic sound? We are transiting through HKG in the first leg on our way to Sri Lanka but my understanding is that we can transit through the same airport twice on this award? I'd like to book these flights asap if anyone has the time to advise me?
Thanks in advance

 

[bookworm]

Nice find & creative thinking @levelnine only issue would be whether @bookworm has enough status to see the QF J flight yet.

PER-SFO & then make your own way to YVR could be another option.

Thank you, I've booked PER-HKG-NRT-SEA. So terribly excited. (combination of CX and JL)

We've always been wanting to take Amtrak along the Puget Sound from Seattle to Vancouver , so think we'll do that if possible.

A big vote of thanks to all you kind; caring; sharing folk on this forum.

 

[serfty]

I now see what you mean, didn't realize MileSAAver had been greyed out... So what is the difference and why isn't 'Anytime' bookable through QF?

I'm no expert on the rules. However, what is shown on AA.com is availability for booking with AA miles.

AAnytime awards book into any AA flights where there is an an available seat. They actually use the real F, J, W and Y fare buckets for First, Business, Premium Economy and Economy respectively.

So, AA flights and AAdvantage Miles only.

 

[AL10]

I've just started putting together a J itinerary for 1 pax. I'm going to Europe for a wedding mid next year, but as the place/dates haven't been finalised, I'm going to take a gamble I think and book a J trip to Europe.

Any thoughts/comments on this route? I'm hoping to do 2 trips - one to Europe and one to the US later in 2020. I'm based in MEL.

SIN - NRT - FRA - LHR (stop)

AMS - DOH (transit) - HKG or SIN or BKK (transit) - MEL - (stop)

MEL - LAX or SFO or DFW - PHI (stop) - JFK (stop) - HGK or SIN - MEL.

I'm fairly flexible with my Asian ports.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. Much appreciated.

I just played around with GCmapper again and realised it's probably not realistic to do both Europe and US as 2 separate trips....unless anyone has ideas otherwise. I could return Europe and one way US.

 

[aikman]

I hope some of the experts on this forum have the time to check my Oneworld J Award itinerary:

SYD-HKG-CMB (stopover) -LHR (extended stopover) -JFK (extended stopover) -MIA(economy)-CUN (stopover) -DFW-NRT-BKK (stopover) -HKG-SYD. 33,625 miles

As advised here previously, I have booked SYD-HKG-CMB-LHR content (arriving LHR 22/6/20) and now want to add to the existing booking, the remaining flights on dummy dates to lock it all in. My husband and I are totally flexible with dates as we will not return until March 2021. We will be living in France from June through Oct 2020, at which time I hope to change the remaining flight dates to late 2020 and early 2021. I have gone with major carriers and airports to make it easier to keep route and carrier when rebooking the dates. I should pre-empt the award miles increase by booking before September 18, however if I have to make some changes before our departure in June 2020, we will have the necessary additional 76k points by then. I am hopeful though that if I can make the changes after the first two legs have been flown, our points cost will remain at 560k total.

I have checked and found the following availability for my dummy dates in J using the Qantas award search for most flights and Asia Miles for the Cathay Pacific flights which I couldn’t find on the Qantas engine.

27/6/20: LHR-JFK on BA185
4/7/20: JFK-MIA(economy) on AA1554
MIA-CUN on AA2492
6/7/20: CUN-DFW on AA1392
DFW-NRT on JL11
7/7/20: NRT-BKK on JL707
When more flights open up, hoping to get a long layover in Tokyo

9/7/20: BKK-HKG on CX616
HKG-SYD on CX111
Again, hope to get a long layover in HKG when I change these dates

Have I committed a grave error anywhere? Is my logic sound? We are transiting through HKG in the first leg on our way to Sri Lanka but my understanding is that we can transit through the same airport twice on this award? I'd like to book these flights asap if anyone has the time to advise me?
Thanks in advance

I'm not seeing those CX flights on the BA website so its possible that Qantas may not see either. All you can do is try.

 

[knightfall88]

I just played around with GCmapper again and realised it's probably not realistic to do both Europe and US as 2 separate trips....unless anyone has ideas otherwise. I could return Europe and one way US.

Why's that? I'm doing it though I need to purchase 2 fares to and from..

First trip:
SYD-DOH-LON
LON-HND
My own fare from HND-SYD

2nd trip:
My own fare SYD-HND
HND-JFK
JFK-LAX
LAX-SYD

33k total miles I believe

 

[exceladdict]

I just played around with GCmapper again and realised it's probably not realistic to do both Europe and US as 2 separate trips....unless anyone has ideas otherwise. I could return Europe and one way US.

SIN-DOH-HEL-HKG-SYD-LAX-SYD-SIN 34912 according to GCmap. End itinerary in SYD rather than adding a return to SIN

 

[abby-line]

Love this thread and all the help, advice and inspiration. Am two legs away from completing my booking.
MNL-DOH-CDG
FCO-DOH-BKK
BKK-HKG-SYD
SYD-NRT-MNL
(Two trips and positioning flights to MNL)



If QF are showing "No Seats" at 351 days out, does that mean it's my status (Bronze) and as we get closer to the magic 297 days some may appear (assuming all the higher levels haven't snapped them up)? Or am I dreaming?!

 

[motef]

If QF are showing "No Seats" at 351 days out, does that mean it's my status (Bronze) and as we get closer to the magic 297 days some may appear (assuming all the higher levels haven't snapped them up)? Or am I dreaming?!

It may mean either.

I am SG. If you have dates and routes I can check for you.

 

[abby-line]

It may mean either.

I am SG. If you have dates and routes I can check for you.

Thanks motef!

Any date after 18 Aug 2020 SYD-NRT (4 seats) - these are purely to be placeholders.

 

[motef]

Thanks motef!

Any date after 18 Aug 2020 SYD-NRT (4 seats) - these are purely to be placeholders.

Wed 19 Aug


Thu 20 Aug


Sat 22 Aug

 

[comforttravel]

I'm starting to plan a J award which will incorporate FNC (Maderia), RAK (Marrakeck) and LIS (Lisborn), MAD (Madrid). I haven't been able to find the rules that apply to:
a) if a city has >1 airport (eg London, Paris, Tokyo, New York) and you transit that city (<24 hrs) by arriving at 1 airport (eg LHR) and depart at a 2nd airport (eg LGW), is that counted as a transit, or is it counted as a stop in LHR and also an additional (surface) sector LHR-LGW with 26 miles applied for the (surface) sector?
b) if you transit eg LHR at one time, and later on transit eg LGW, is that counted as 1 transit at each airport, or is it counted as 2 transits in that city, which maximises the number of transits in that city?
Can anyone enlighten me on the rules? Thank you.

 

[pye1201]

I'm not seeing those CX flights on the BA website so its possible that Qantas may not see either. All you can do is try.

Thanks Aikman - appreciate your looking at it. I will try but I suspect you're right - Qantas probably won't put it through... I will have to try and brainstorm a backup plan - I was going to try to cut out the BKK segment by coming back from CUN via HKG and adding the BKK leg later but that would have us going through HKG 3 times so not possible.

 

[flapper]

I'm starting to plan a J award which will incorporate FNC (Maderia), RAK (Marrakeck) and LIS (Lisborn), MAD (Madrid). I haven't been able to find the rules that apply to:
a) if a city has >1 airport (eg London, Paris, Tokyo, New York) and you transit that city (<24 hrs) by arriving at 1 airport (eg LHR) and depart at a 2nd airport (eg LGW), is that counted as a transit, or is it counted as a stop in LHR and also an additional (surface) sector LHR-LGW with 26 miles applied for the (surface) sector?
b) if you transit eg LHR at one time, and later on transit eg LGW, is that counted as 1 transit at each airport, or is it counted as 2 transits in that city, which maximises the number of transits in that city?
Can anyone enlighten me on the rules? Thank you.

The rules say only 2 transfers may be taken at any one city. It doesn’t say airport. I take that to mean transfers at LHR, LGW or LCY all count as one city.

 

[AL10]

SIN-DOH-HEL-HKG-SYD-LAX-SYD-SIN 34912 according to GCmap. End itinerary in SYD rather than adding a return to SIN

Thanks for this suggestion, a really great starting point for me. I'm going to try and amend it slightly to incorporate a JAL flight. Also, can you please clarify what you mean by end it in SYD, as the suggestion above finishes in SIN?

Thanks