Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Saurs82]

Starting to plan our family (2a 2c) rtw trip in Y. Cant book until next year yet but trying figure out rough itinerary first. Have just spent hours reading though this thread and playing on the oneworld website and the Qantas multitrip site too.
I must have missed something though or maybe just read to much and confused myself, as both times my itinerary wont work hoping someone could give advice as to why. I'm sure its something simple.....
ADL-DOH transit
DOH-CPT- stop
CPT-LHR- stop
Paris - Naples - stop
Berlin- Oslo - stop
Olso - Athens - stop
Athens - Adelaide
Is this doable? When I tried to do this via the multi city tool on Qantas website my points total jumped above after choosing the oslo to Athens stop. Why would this be? Oneworld said it was because I was not going in a continuous route and that I couldn't backtrack through the same continent or something along those lines.
Also does it matter how many times you fly with the same carrier as a lot of the flights when doing a test via the Qantas website are with BA.
Thankyou for any help/advice re the itinerary.

 

[siri]

Try to call Qantas FF team, they will help you.. I think web tools are not liked to all the sites and also Qantas staff got better access to seats than any one else..

 

[fairbasa]

Starting to plan our family (2a 2c) rtw trip in Y. Cant book until next year yet but trying figure out rough itinerary first. Have just spent hours reading though this thread and playing on the oneworld website and the Qantas multitrip site too.
I must have missed something though or maybe just read to much and confused myself, as both times my itinerary wont work hoping someone could give advice as to why. I'm sure its something simple.....
ADL-DOH transit
DOH-CPT- stop
CPT-LHR- stop
Paris - Naples - stop
Berlin- Oslo - stop
Olso - Athens - stop
Athens - Adelaide
Is this doable? When I tried to do this via the multi city tool on Qantas website my points total jumped above after choosing the oslo to Athens stop. Why would this be? Oneworld said it was because I was not going in a continuous route and that I couldn't backtrack through the same continent or something along those lines.
Also does it matter how many times you fly with the same carrier as a lot of the flights when doing a test via the Qantas website are with BA.
Thankyou for any help/advice re the itinerary.

It would help if you posted a little more detail. Break down every single flight and which carrier each is with. A few of your flights aren't serviced by a OneWorld airline directly (Paris-Naples, Berlin-Oslo, Athens-Adelaide) etc. Without being able to see the full breakdown of your itinerary, I can only speculate that you're either 1) booking with a non-Oneworld airline or 2) you're transiting via LHR more than twice, either of which will break the fare rules.

To answer your question regarding number of carriers: You need to travel with at least 2 carriers other than QF. Provided you satisfy this criteria and all carriers are part of OneWorld you should be fine.

 

[Saurs82]

Fairbasa thankyou the problem is transiting through LHR more then twice, as the Paris-napleas was via LHR so was berlin-oslo and oslo-athens. I know there was a flight with finair on the oslo-athens route but had no availability for my dates I tested so if when I'm ready to book if I can get a finair flight via Hilenski then that shouldn't break the rules right?

 

[fairbasa]

That should be fine. You can have a 1x Stop + 2x Transits in LHR. If you can't get availability on the Finnair leg, you could look at flying Paris to Naples or Berlin to Oslo on a separate revenue booking - you may be able to go direct that way and save some time.

Good luck and let us know how you go!

 

[Saurs82]

Swapped some dates around and removed a LHR transit so its working no thankyou I knew it was something simple:/

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

I'm trying to help a friend with a OneWorld Award Itinerary.
She has an existing Itinerary, and wants to add an ATL-LAX sector, on 5 Jun 2018.
I'm guessing that the only valid OneWorld carrier is AA.
I believe that AA releases award seats at 330 days out (and 5 June 2018 is 328 days).

I've searched via AA Advantage, JAL & BA sites, and there are no (OneWorld) award seats on this sector for the desired date, nor for ANY date in the 2 months prior (except for a couple of 1 stop hops via MIA or similar).

It looks to me as if AA might not make ANY direct seats available to the OneWorld pool for this sector.
Does anyone have any knowledge to share?
Am I chasing a unicorn?
Should my friend just buy a paid ticket for this sector instead?

Thanks in advance for any wisdom available.
J

 

[fairbasa]

I don't know that route specifically, but AA are not as predictable as QF with when they release inventory.

Even though they *can* release inventory 330 days before, I found on the routes I monitored they released the first batch of seats 9-10 months out, another batch about 6 months out and will probably release a last batch not long before the flight. It's up to the revenue managers.

I would suggest you sign up for Expert Flyer to get an alert when the seats are released. Otherwise, I'm sure some (including myself) on this forum would be happy to setup an alert for you.

 

[yld200]

I had a quick look through April 2018 next year and could only find availability via DFW, ORD & CLT on a few random dates - Nothing direct.

 

[fairbasa]

Looking at schedules for June 5 next year I can see 3 direct flights - AA365, AA424 and AA1471.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

I don't know that route specifically, but AA are not as predictable as QF with when they release inventory.

Even though they *can* release inventory 330 days before, I found on the routes I monitored they released the first batch of seats 9-10 months out, another batch about 6 months out and will probably release a last batch not long before the flight. It's up to the revenue managers.

I would suggest you sign up for Expert Flyer to get an alert when the seats are released. Otherwise, I'm sure some (including myself) on this forum would be happy to setup an alert for you.

Thanks for the quick reply.
I've taken your suggestion to sign up for Expert Flyer, and set an alert. Currently there are plenty of available seats, so we can afford to be patient for a while and hope for some award seats to be released.
Fingers crossed.
J

 

[Kangol]

I'm trying to help a friend with a OneWorld Award Itinerary.
She has an existing Itinerary, and wants to add an ATL-LAX sector, on 5 Jun 2018.
I'm guessing that the only valid OneWorld carrier is AA.
I believe that AA releases award seats at 330 days out (and 5 June 2018 is 328 days).

I've searched via AA Advantage, JAL & BA sites, and there are no (OneWorld) award seats on this sector for the desired date, nor for ANY date in the 2 months prior (except for a couple of 1 stop hops via MIA or similar).

It looks to me as if AA might not make ANY direct seats available to the OneWorld pool for this sector.
Does anyone have any knowledge to share?
Am I chasing a unicorn?
Should my friend just buy a paid ticket for this sector instead?

Thanks in advance for any wisdom available.
J

Not that it would make much difference, but AA opens at 331 days.

 

[jewles]

Has anyone been able to book rewards business class seats on QF9 from Perth to London? we are planning to book our 280k rewards seats for our honeymoon next August and I have never seen any available in any class of travel. Thanks!

 

[exceladdict]

Has anyone been able to book rewards business class seats on QF9 from Perth to London? we are planning to book our 280k rewards seats for our honeymoon next August and I have never seen any available in any class of travel. Thanks!

They seem to be as rare as hens teeth. Would be interested if any WPs can request seats be opened

 

[GC_Engineer]

I am wondering if anyone can confirm that following routing is valid under one award

1. SIN - DOH - ATH stop
2. ATH - DOH - HKG stop
3. HKG - SYD stop
4. SYD - BNE - LAX stop
5. LAX - BNE end of trip

Milecalc shows 34673 miles (ending in Singapore)

Leg 1,2,3 is already booked. Looking to add leg 4,5 before we depart on our first leg. Any help appreciated.
Cheers

 

[Captain Halliday]

I am wondering if anyone can confirm that following routing is valid under one award

1. SIN - DOH - ATH stop
2. ATH - DOH - HKG stop
3. HKG - SYD stop
4. SYD - BNE - LAX stop
5. LAX - BNE end of trip

Milecalc shows 34673 miles (ending in Singapore)

Leg 1,2,3 is already booked. Looking to add leg 4,5 before we depart on our first leg. Any help appreciated.
Cheers

Assuming you're travelling on two OW carriers other than QF, it looks okay to me.

 

[GC_Engineer]

Thanks Captain
How about if leg 4 is only BNE - LAX (ie make my own way from Syd to Bne after leg 3)? Would that count two effective stops in BNE?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Thanks Captain
How about if leg 4 is only BNE - LAX (ie make my own way from Syd to Bne after leg 3)? Would that count two effective stops in BNE?

No it wouldn't count as an additional stop. However, the miles from BNE to SYD would be included in the calculation of total miles, so it makes sense to include it.

 

[Kangol]

They seem to be as rare as hens teeth. Would be interested if any WPs can request seats be opened

WP can request for any award seat on QF metal only, but it doesn't guarantee approval.
I have had a look for QF9 MEL-PER J award seats and it does not look like there are any available (last time I checked a week or two ago). They are available as revenue seats though.

 

[Aggashi]

Hi,

can someone please advise if I have been charged correctly for the taxes on a RTW business redemption.

I did a redemption via the phone because I got a "5685 UI" error message when I tried to do it online.

the route that I redeemed as per below:-

London (Heathrow) to Tokyo (Narita) on British Airways
Tokyo (Haneda) to Sydney on Qantas
Canberra to Melbourne on Qantas
Melbourne to Santiago on LATAM
Santiago to London (Heathrow) on Iberia transit in Madrid

when I priced this itinerary using the matrix airfare search (business class), the taxes came to around A$1100+

[TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$251.30
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$69.50
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]BA YQ surcharge (YQ)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$292.40
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Japan Passenger Service Facilities Charge International (SW)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$29.20
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Passenger Services Charge Arrival International (WY)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$30.51
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]QF YQ surcharge (YQ)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$259.70
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Japan Passenger Security Service Charge (OI)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$1.20
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Passenger Service Charge Domestic Departure (QR)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$22.47
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Passenger Service Charge Domestic Arrival (QR)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$4.40
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Safety And Security Charge Departure (WG)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$9.48
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Passenger Movement Charge PMC (AU)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$60.00
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Australia Passenger Services Charge Departure International (WY)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$21.00
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Chile Airport Facility Charge International (ZQ)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$38.40
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Spain Security Tax (QV)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$3.20
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Spain Aviation Safety And Security Fee (OG)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$0.90
[/TD] [TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-g"]Spain Departure Charge (JD)
[/TD][TD="class: IR6M2QD-l-f"]A$14.20
[/TD]

however I was charged A$1799+ by Qantas and the supervisor had to work this out manually due to the error message.

does this sound right??

can someone please shed some light?

many thanks in advance.