Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[vetrade]

Found this: https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/qantas-class-types.html

 

[cjd600]

I've had QF First awards issued by AA that were 'Z'.

AA issue their own codes, even for QF awards. By airline specific I mean QF issuing QF awards. Not another airline issuing QR awards

For AA (through AAdvantage), they issue as per below, incl on QF Classic Award flights
Z: First class MileSAAver award on three-cabin aircraft
U: Business/domestic first-class MileSAAver award on two-cabin aircraft
X: Premium economy MileSAAver award
T: Economy MileSAAver awards

 

[madrooster]

You may be correct and looking at EF A, F and Z are recorded as F codes for JL.

JL Z class has been re-purposed into an economy class now.

Here's the current list of classes in use for each QF partner in order of highest to lowest cabin:

QF P/U/Z/X
AA Z/U/X/T
BA Z/U/P/X
JL A/U/P/T
AS E/T
AT U/X
QR Z/U/X
CX Z/U/T/X
IB U/X
AY U/X
MH U/X
RJ U/X
S7 U/E
UL U/X
WS V
LA U/R/T
KL O/X
AF O/X
MU A/O/X
FJ U/X
NZ X
JQ U/X
LY X/P/E
EK Z/D/N

 

[BillW]

Does no OW airline fly form PER to South Africa direct? Qantas bookings sends me back via SYD or MEL.
If not, what would be the best shortest stage? PER-DOH

 

[Mr H]

Does no OW airline fly form PER to South Africa direct? Qantas bookings sends me back via SYD or MEL.
If not, what would be the best shortest stage? PER-DOH

The only likely airlines to fly direct would be airlines based in either Australia or South Africa. There is no OW carrier based in South Africa, and Qantas is the only OW carrier in Australia and as you have discovered, they do not fly direct from Perth.

The shortest route PER-DOH would be the direct flight operated by Al Qataria. Note that Doha is not in South Africa.

 

[11sjw]

Could anyone with OWE or OWS status have a look at PER-MXP for next Nov and tell me if they see anything other the economy on Qatar please?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Could anyone with OWE or OWS status have a look at PER-MXP for next Nov and tell me if they see anything other the economy on Qatar please?

I’m seeing QR only

 

[11sjw]

I’m seeing QR only

Thank you

 

[Captain Halliday]

Could anyone with OWE or OWS status have a look at PER-MXP for next Nov and tell me if they see anything other the economy on Qatar please?

Depending on you ideal date it could just be that the flights are not yet available.

I can see QF/BA and QF/AY and QF/CX combinations on 29 Oct

 

[Matt_01]

@madrooster is there any reason why airlines cannot just adopt a common approach to reward fare buckets codes across the carriers.

 

[Mattg]

Could anyone with OWE or OWS status have a look at PER-MXP for next Nov and tell me if they see anything other the economy on Qatar please?

How many seats?

If you just want 1 seat, I can see business on Qatar Airways currently on 2, 7, 9 & 14 November. PER-DOH-MXP.

 

[madrooster]

@madrooster is there any reason why airlines cannot just adopt a common approach to reward fare buckets codes across the carriers.

Oneworld doesn't mandate particular RBDs to be used. I think *A do but their commercial RBD structure is more of a mess than oneworld... so it goes both ways.

 

[gfraser]

I am doing some dummy searches for OWA trip towards the end of next November.
One flight is from EZE to ZRH and the only way I can find to search it is on 2nd flight on a multi- city. Otherwise EZE is not recognised.
Any suggestions.

 

[Mr H]

I am doing some dummy searches for OWA trip towards the end of next November.
One flight is from EZE to ZRH and the only way I can find to search it is on 2nd flight on a multi- city. Otherwise EZE is not recognised.
Any suggestions.

This is not unique to EZE.

I get around it by entering a single dummy flight as my first one - MEL-CMB some time early next year seems to work for almost any date - and then enter the real flight I am searching in flight 2. The dummy flight needs to have availability or the search crashes - and obviously needs to be well before the date of the real flight you are looking for. Then when you want to search for another flight, click "Change Search", leave the dummy flight unchanged and add new details for the second flight.

Does that make sense? If not, I can try to rephrase it.

 

[gfraser]

Thank you. The EZE - ZRH will be my first booking due to IB releasing seats before Qantas( Syd - SCL). How do I make the EZE - ZRH online , with it being the 2nd sector on the Multi-city?

 

[Mr H]

Thank you. The EZE - ZRH will be my first booking due to IB releasing seats before Qantas( Syd - SCL). How do I make the EZE - ZRH online , with it being the 2nd sector on the Multi-city?

I presume you could just book both the dummy sector and the actual one - then when you make your first addition to the itinerary you just cancel the dummy sector. You would need sufficient points and dollars to cover the dummy flight until you make the changes, and you'd need to make the dummy flight far enough in the future that you'll be making changes to the itinerary before it departs...

 

[11sjw]

How many seats?

If you just want 1 seat, I can see business on Qatar Airways currently on 2, 7, 9 & 14 November. PER-DOH-MXP.

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Thanks for that. I could only see Y seats when searching for 1.

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Depending on you ideal date it could just be that the flights are not yet available.

I can see QF/BA and QF/AY and QF/CX combinations on 29 Oct

Yes I was seeing all sorts of combinations on the 29th but nothing but QR Y from the 30th on. Thanks for looking.

 

[madrooster]

Thank you. The EZE - ZRH will be my first booking due to IB releasing seats before Qantas( Syd - SCL). How do I make the EZE - ZRH online , with it being the 2nd sector on the Multi-city?

See this post: "oneworld" award (132.4K/249.6K/318K/455K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

In short you'd want to book a dummy flight in front of the EZE-ZRH (it can be AU-anything) so that the ticket currency is AUD otherwise you will encounter issues later. Ideally book an earlier date for the same routing that you are wanting. Eg. if you intend to fly SYD-SCL on QF, then book an earlier SYD-SCL dummy followed by the EZE-ZRH that you actually want.

 

[ozflier]

Now that we may be heading out of Covid and are booking on airlines that are not the usual suspects , I will mention an issue with Iberia. I found real difficulties in requesting seats.
My partner and i are travelling on the same PNR.
Despite having business class reward seats on a OWA booking , seats on Iberian metal were hard to select.( economy seats are not bookable without payment except for a few reasons eg status with Iberia)
Maybe I am cursed but this issue has occurred on 2 separate PNRs for mid 2022 travel.
Basically , I used the Qantas PNR and went to Iberia.com, selected my seat and then all of a sudden , all the remaining seats in the cabin turned into crosses - ie unavailable for selection - I got the seat but not my partner ! Nil helped. (Both my wife and I are same status).
I tried the BA website (after all, they are both in IAG), Royal Air Maroc and Royal Jordanian and the same issue happened.
There is no Iberia number to ring in Australia and initial attempts at international calls to Madrid ended in the line going dead after numerous messages saying that all agents are busy.
I tried the Iberia page on Facebook and one booking was fixed after about a week of messaging to and fro .Note that Iberia have their own unique 5 character Confirmation number - this was the initial problem- the reservation could not be accessed by my 6 bit QF alpha numeric one.
The seating for flight for September could not be fixed .
In the end , I tried the English speaking lines to UK and the USA - wait times ++. Gave up .
The flight with the problem was Madrid to London Heathrow . I had picked in particularly because it was scheduled to be flown by an Airbus 350 -900 ( anything is better than a A 320 with economy class seating with the middle one unoccupied). Of course , it may have reverted to the single aisle a/c by then but who knows .
I did try the USA number ( 00111800-772-4642 from Gold Coast) in the middle of their night and success after 30 minutes.
The excellent agent told me there was a "glitch" associated with bookings by airlines other than Iberia for bookings on Iberian metal where there was more than one person travelling- she said it was very important in that situation , NOT to change the seat request of the first one to be requested otherwise further seat selection will be frozen for additional travellers in that PNR.
What was the next move if the phone call did not work ? - a Twitter call ( max 280 letters and spaces ).
Apologies for the mundane nature of this post but this thread was looking a bit unused.

 

[flapper]

Yesterday I needed to change a flight on my OWA booking for next year. I called at 5:00pm and was on hold until after 10:00pm. This wait time is quite common for NBs like me. I got an agent from CPT CC. The agent was quite knowledgeable (for CPT) and it took about an hour mostly on hold while the taxes were recalculated. The agent said the ticket would be reissued in a few minutes and a max of 1 hour. So I waited up constantly refreshing my email. After 1 hour I called again but wait time was still over 2 hours, so I couldn't wait and had to go to bed.
I got up at 6:00am and called wait time 1-2 hours but offered a call back. Got up again at 6:30 and requested a call back on a different phone. I was awoken from a deep sleep at 7:30, damn it was CPT again. I was still half asleep and accepted it when she said she had put in a request and it would be ticketed within the hour. I called straight back for another call back.
2nd call back around 8:00am. CPT yet again. I requested agent call ticketing while I wait on the phone. He said he can only do that if flight is within 24 hours. I said no, I've done it many times before. I explained how I waited for 5 hours and was promised the reticketing last night and how it it's not reticketed within 24 hours my CX flights will be deleted. He wouldn't budge. I insisited he make a note on the call that I advised him about the CX flights being deleted. So I HUACA requested another call back and a while later a call back on a 3rd phone and then a 4th.
3rd call again CPT, I've never had such a bad run of CPT. I gave my woeful story and asked that she call back if the call dropped out. She agreed to call ticketing while I waited. On hold for 50mins called dropped out - no call back. HUACA request another call back still, 4 call backs on the go.
4th call again CPT repeat story, repeat request to call back if drop out and asked to promise as previous operator didn't. After 30 mins call drop out. HUACA request another call back. Again 4 call backs on the go.
5th call again CPT - I couldn't believe my bad luck. After 30 mins on hold success. She came back and said it had been reticketed. I asked her to wait until I got the email. That took a few mins.
So it only took 5 hours and 5 agents to get a ticket reissued. Outstanding service QF.
Also I've had many call dropouts with CPT CC and they never call back so I don't know why I still bother asking them to.