Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[exceladdict]

OK HEL is showing up now fine not sure what I did wrong there. Anyway ive worked out I could do
JFK-MAD-AMS
AMS-HEL-VCE
VCE-MAD-ATH
JMK-DOH-ADL

Signed up for the BA executive club but its only sowing me BA avalibility?

Mine is working fine - partners do appear and disappear in IT glitches from time to time, but perhaps there is simply no availability other than BA for that leg. Make sure you're selecting 'pay with avios'.

 

[leer30]

Getting through my booking - and can not find any AA Business class across the Atlantic. This doesn't seem to be a route issue, as I have searched on multiple routes and multiples dates and AA just seem to not give QF any business class seats.

As everyone knows the abundance of business class awards with BA is fairly massive.

Spoke to QF the other day and they gave the reasons of ''maybe not available yet'', or maybe ''AA give the seats to their members first''.

So my question to this forum is - do you think AA don't give Qantas any business class awards? Or do QF push everybody to use BA because of the high surcharges (which QF may be able to take a higher percentage from). Or is it purely that as a lowly Bronze status holder, these AA flights are only available to higher Gold or Platinum status holders?

 

[Jacques Vert]

Getting through my booking - and can not find any AA Business class across the Atlantic. This doesn't seem to be a route issue, as I have searched on multiple routes and multiples dates and AA just seem to not give QF any business class seats.

As everyone knows the abundance of business class awards with BA is fairly massive.

Spoke to QF the other day and they gave the reasons of ''maybe not available yet'', or maybe ''AA give the seats to their members first''.

So my question to this forum is - do you think AA don't give Qantas any business class awards? Or do QF push everybody to use BA because of the high surcharges (which QF may be able to take a higher percentage from). Or is it purely that as a lowly Bronze status holder, these AA flights are only available to higher Gold or Platinum status holders?

Two things:

• AA Business Class seats have not been showing on the QF website for a while (look on the AA website or Expert Flyer);
• Not sue when you preferred dates are but remember that AA only release seats at 330 days.

 

[Aussiejosh]

Getting through my booking - and can not find any AA Business class across the Atlantic. This doesn't seem to be a route issue, as I have searched on multiple routes and multiples dates and AA just seem to not give QF any business class seats.

As everyone knows the abundance of business class awards with BA is fairly massive.

Spoke to QF the other day and they gave the reasons of ''maybe not available yet'', or maybe ''AA give the seats to their members first''.

So my question to this forum is - do you think AA don't give Qantas any business class awards? Or do QF push everybody to use BA because of the high surcharges (which QF may be able to take a higher percentage from). Or is it purely that as a lowly Bronze status holder, these AA flights are only available to higher Gold or Platinum status holders?

As said above search on the AA website.

Economy MileSAAver = Economy Reward Tickets
Business/First MileSAAver = Business Reward Tickets

Anytime tickets are not available under classic rewards.

 

[ellen10]

Trying to look at a plan for our flights next year for two in J. I have never booked one of these before, so quite nervous.
My rough plans are as follows:

SYD-DUB I think this leg is doable via HKG
DUB-LHR
LHR-INN
INN- VCE This will be a land sector
VCE- MAD
BCN- SYD This may be the hardest leg to get home?

I will need to book the first leg within the next few days. I will book the remaining legs all at once hopefully when the final leg home becomes available.
Will these flights and routing fit into the rules. Do I have to include at least 1 QF flight?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[exceladdict]

Trying to look at a plan for our flights next year for two in J. I have never booked one of these before, so quite nervous.
My rough plans are as follows:

SYD-DUB I think this leg is doable via HKG
DUB-LHR
LHR-INN
INN- VCE This will be a land sector
VCE- MAD
BCN- SYD This may be the hardest leg to get home?

I will need to book the first leg within the next few days. I will book the remaining legs all at once hopefully when the final leg home becomes available.
Will these flights and routing fit into the rules. Do I have to include at least 1 QF flight?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

No, also you could consider QR to get to the UK

 

[ellen10]

No, also you could consider QR to get to the UK

Thanks for your reply. Thats good because finding QF is very hard.

I did consider QR but when I looked back over the last couple of months there was absolutely no QR J and in that 2 month period only one flight in economy. CX seems to have the most availability, not a lot of that either, so it is a bit worrying getting closer to booking the first flight.

 

[leer30]

Two things:

• AA Business Class seats have not been showing on the QF website for a while (look on the AA website or Expert Flyer);
• Not sue when you preferred dates are but remember that AA only release seats at 330 days.

Thanks for that - yes AA website shows a few flights, but not much - certainly very little direct US to EU - ended up choosing BA (boo club world, but will take what we can get) to get from ORD to BRU, worked out at around $350 per person in surcharges.

5 flights booked, 5 to go - yay!

 

[siri]

There are plenty BA bus redemption tickets available from HR to US cities.
I have booked 2 seats round the world (one world) for 2019, june/July. I had 2 seats last year on bus class as well. Same cities.
Flight 1
Mon 17 Jun 19 12:10 Sydney

Duration: 12h 05m

22:15 QF107 Business Classic Reward Per Adult : 2 pieces Beijing (Capital International)
Stops: 0


Flight 2

Tue 18 Jun 19 11:15
Beijing (Capital International)

15:30 BA38 Business Classic Reward Per Adult : 2 pieces London (Heathrow)
Stops: 0


Duration: 12h 15m
= Flight BA38 is operated by British Airways

Flight 3
Sat 13 Jul 19 11:20 14:05 BA173 Business Classic Reward Per Adult : 2 pieces London (Heathrow) New York (JFK)

Duration: 7h 45m Stops: 0
= Flight BA173 is operated by British Airways


Flight 4
Tue 16 Jul 19 10:00
New York (JFK)

Duration: 15h 00m

14:00 Wed Hong Kong Stops: 0

CX841

Business

= Flight CX841 is operated by Cathay Pacific
Flight 5
Fri 19 Jul 19

14:30

Tokyo (Narita)

CX504 Business

Duration: 4h 25m
= Flight CX504 is operated by Cathay Pacific

Flight 6

Mon 22 Jul 19 22:00
Tokyo (Haneda)

Duration: 9h 30m

Sydney
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Hardly any Bus class flights available from syd to london even staying overnight in transit points.

I wish Qantas allow standby for any future available award seats rather than checking them daily..

 

[ellen10]

Well done Siri on your bookings.

I have been looking every day for SYD to LHR, nothing in business.
So today I bit the bullet and booked my first leg of flights, a couple of days ahead of what I originally thought but just glad to get the first leg booked and locked in.

SYD - DUB x 2 in CX J, departure date 28 August 2019

So first one down, fingers crossed for the rest.

 

[siri]

Well done Siri on your bookings.

Ellen
You can go via beijing staying overnight like me and taking BA to london from beijing ..
Near travel date u can always try to change it using points..

I have been looking every day for SYD to LHR, nothing in business.
So today I bit the bullet and booked my first leg of flights, a couple of days ahead of what I originally thought but just glad to get the first leg booked and locked in.

SYD - DUB x 2 in CX J, departure date 28 August 2019

So first one down, fingers crossed for the rest.

 

[jeza]

Trying to book the first part of a 280K J Award & keep getting (4002 [7597]) error when it does the processing before the payment page. Will it have to booked online or is there another possible reason for the error?

PER-HKG-DOH Cathay & Qatar Airlines
Stop for less than 24hrs
DOH-CDG Qatar Airlines
Overland sector
BUD-DOH-SIN Qatar Airlines

Other question I had was is 3hrs enough time for the transit stage at Doha?

Thanks for any advice

 

[siri]

Trying to book the first part of a 280K J Award & keep getting (4002 [7597]) error when it does the processing before the payment page. Will it have to booked online or is there another possible reason for the error?

PER-HKG-DOH Cathay & Qatar Airlines
Stop for less than 24hrs
DOH-CDG Qatar Airlines
Overland sector
BUD-DOH-SIN Qatar Airlines

Other question I had was is 3hrs enough time for the transit stage at Doha?

Thanks for any advice

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I have a feeling your trip is not following round the world paths... try to add BUD to any US city and then to SIN and see what happens ..

 

[cjd600]

Trying to book the first part of a 280K J Award & keep getting (4002 [7597]) error when it does the processing before the payment page. Will it have to booked online or is there another possible reason for the error?

PER-HKG-DOH Cathay & Qatar Airlines
Stop for less than 24hrs
DOH-CDG Qatar Airlines
Overland sector
BUD-DOH-SIN Qatar Airlines

Other question I had was is 3hrs enough time for the transit stage at Doha?

Thanks for any advice

Is HKG-CDG on QR available as a single leg?
If not, you wont be able to marry HKG-DOH to DOH-CDG with a <24hrs stopover, even if the legs are available separately

 

[rock86]

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I have a feeling your trip is not following round the world paths... try to add BUD to any US city and then to SIN and see what happens ..

No neednto follow a round-the-world path for the oneworld award redemption.

As @cjd600 has said, it will be a married segment issue.

 

[jeza]

Is HKG-CDG on QR available as a single leg?
If not, you wont be able to marry HKG-DOH to DOH-CDG with a <24hrs stopover, even if the legs are available separately

That's probably it as they are 2 separate bookings. Thank you!

Not sure I want to burn a stopover in Doha, so may have to look at other alternatives.

 

[cjd600]

That's probably it as they are 2 separate bookings. Thank you!

Not sure I want to burn a stopover in Doha, so may have to look at other alternatives.

Not sure of your dates, but AY HKG-HEL, HEL-CDG is one way of doing it (less charges than QR as well), but generally need to snap this one up as soon as released @ 360 days-ish

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

Trying to book the first part of a 280K J Award & keep getting (4002 [7597]) error when it does the processing before the payment page. Will it have to booked online or is there another possible reason for the error?

PER-HKG-DOH Cathay & Qatar Airlines
Stop for less than 24hrs
DOH-CDG Qatar Airlines
Overland sector
BUD-DOH-SIN Qatar Airlines

Other question I had was is 3hrs enough time for the transit stage at Doha?

Thanks for any advice

If the web engine keeps throwing an error, you can ring the call centre & have them try. They should waive the help fee if its a system problem.

If its on 1 Itinerary, the 3 hrs is plenty for thee Doha transit (although you may want to stay in the lounge for longer...)

 

[jeza]

Thanks for all the help everyone

In the end I went a slightly different route by starting in Singapore & going SIN-HKG-AMS, stop (spend 4 weeks in Europe), AMS-DOH-PER, stop. Flights are on Cathay A330 & 777, Qatar 777 & A380. Will book the rest before I take my first flight next year, gives me a bit of time to work out where I want to go with 3 Stopovers left.

 

[ellen10]

Well done Jeza. How far out did you need to book these flights? I have found very limited J availability to and from Europe.